Panda Cloud Antivirus 1.1 Beta Released

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  1. ^^^ What he said.

    If you really have reason to be that paranoid, and you're not living in North Korea or somesuch, you probably deserve to be arrested.
     
  2. shadek

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    I dare to say; we who live in Sweden agree! :) I have, as I previously stated, the exact same view in this matter.


    He has a valid point though. Just because he doesn't want to keep a paging Windows doesn't mean he's doing some shady stuff. He could be running a business which needs to be discrete. ;)
     
  3. pbust

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    Yes we do agree the Recycle Bin, quarantine method, suspicious, restoring, etc. needs fixing. Now that we almost have 1.1 out of the way we'll find a solution for this. Suggestions as the ones from the swedish front are most welcomed :)

    Re: the pagefile, there's two good suggestions already by doktornotor. You can either encrypt the drive or have Windows clear it every reboot. I'm sure you can find more workarounds if you're so inclined to. But if this is your standard setup I'll bet PCAV is not your only problem regarding memory management.
     
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    Wow - that's appalling. :gack:
     
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    @doktornotor

    I could have Windows clear Pagefile.sys at shutdown. However, that wouldn't occur during a crash, and indeed, Windows would dump memory there. Running with an encrypted boot disk is certainly an option. Perhaps there are others.

    @Gullible Jones

    Thanks for sharing.

    @pbust

    Actually, this is the only problem that I've encountered during five days of typical use. I can live with Panda Cloud AV grabbing memory at ca. 20 MB per hour. I'll just reboot every 3-4 days, or sooner if I need to run a memory hog.
     
  6. Oh? If you live in North America, and have a really good reason to be that paranoid - as opposed to a paranoid fantasy about government conspiracies and whatnot - then chances are it's because you've been doing something illegal with your computer. It does not take much brainpower to figure this out.
     
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    Now, now. You do realize you're on Wilders forum, right? We all are security freaks for different reasons... this place is totally wrong to bad mouth security setups, simply because we're all here for that.
     
  8. Ibrad

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    I confirm that the Behavior Shield is working, it blocked Svchost from doing something suspicious but looking at the time it went off I was away from my PC so I have no idea what it was doing.
     
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    That's great to hear. The Behavior Shield has been awfully quiet for me. But I suppose that's a good thing! Would be nice to see other forum members share their observation of the Behavior Shield.
     
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    Thank you! Glad that you agreed and looking forward to see the changes laiter on:thumb:
     
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    Wow - an equally appalling post. :gack:

    What does living in North America have to do with an individual's basic right to privacy? This sounds like typical American ignorance and arrogance of how our country can do no wrong. I suppose if your neighbor puts a fence up around his yard, chances are he's doing something illegal behind that as well. Please stop embarrassing your fellow Americans here to the rest of the international community on Wilders. It shouldn't take much brain power to figure out how to do that. :oops:
     
  12. Thank you.

    Right, I should have mentioned more places... Also Australia, most of Europe, Japan, some of South America and Africa, etc. In most developed countries the government doesn't give a damn about your politics, your religion, or even, if applicable, your taste in pornography (as long as it's legal). I'm not saying that governments should be able to know all this stuff, mind; I'm just saying that, assuming they find out some of it, you probably won't be any the worse for it because they don't care.

    No, our government can and has done wrong, and of late has been moving in an ugly direction regarding privacy. Nonetheless, it is not oppressive towards its own citizens.

    Bad analogy. A fence is an obvious barrier; this is about hiding stuff.

    A better example might be telephone calls. If I know someone who makes regular phone calls to a certain number using a vocoder and a disposable cell phone bought with cash, I'll probably either consider him a paranoid nut or start getting a bit suspicious about who he's calling.

    I fail to see how I'm embarrassing anyone by using common sense.
     
  13. Ibrad

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    Guys, this is a thread on Panda Cloud 1.1 beta please keep chatting about that.
     
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    I'm not sure how you reconcile this statement based on your original premise regarding hierophant's privacy concerns.

    That all depends on the type of fence and perhaps I wasn't specific enough. Maybe I should have used block wall (which is the standard here in the southwest) in my analogy.

    I'm sorry if I'm failing to see the common sense in your twisted presumption of guilt towards hierophant, as well as in your "paranoid nut" with the cellphone example. It's attitudes like yours that are contributing to the ugly direction this country is moving in regarding privacy. I'm finished hijacking this post; this discussion belongs in the privacy general forum.
     
  15. shadek

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    Seriously. Stop ranting.
     
  16. Actually... My apologies for saying that. I was irritated with the level of paranoia that I sometimes see here, and let that get to me. I shouldn't have.

    However - I will say that, if you're a private user, and not living under an oppressive regime which might imprison you for silly things like political affiliation, you should probably rethink your privacy measures. Not using a swap file due to worries about data recovery is a bit excessive IMHO.

    (Especially considering that you're using Panda Cloud AV, which implies that you at least trust Panda not to pry into your PC. But that's another matter.)
     
  17. Ibrad

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    I highly doubt that any security vendor would pry into anyone's machine, now lets get back to discussing the beta.
     
  18. hierophant

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    OK, just to be clear, I gather (from the silence) that none of y'all running Panda Cloud AV on "unbroken" Windows sees this behavior. Yes?

    And I gather that Panda considers this to be my problem, not theirs. Yes?

    One last question. Is it possible to reset the app without rebooting?
     
  19. pbust

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    I don't know, I haven't tested it yet. After we get 1.1 out of the way we will try to replicate to see if there's something we can do about it.

    Have you tried stopping and starting the service to see if that's a valid workaround?
     
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    Will this behavioral blocking technology make it into other Panda products such as their versions for enterprises?
     
  21. hierophant

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    Thank you :)

    Thank you, again :) Stopping/starting in Service Manager worked.

    FWIW, I had tried restarting it in Process Explorer, and was warned that it would restart in my account rather than the Administrator account. Service Manager, OTOH, stopped and started without changing owner. Strange.
     
  22. SweX

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    Good question.

    But I also wonder if the behavioral blocker is on it's way to the consumer versions like Panda AV Pro as well?
     
  23. pbust

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    It's already in some products like the consumer products and one of the corporate products, and is being integrated as we speak in the remaining products, so it will be in all our products shortly.
     
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    I guess it is integrated in the "TruPrevent" technologies :rolleyes:
     
  25. SweX

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    Yea it has to be in the TruPrevent module, since the specifications on the consumer products over at the Panda site says nothing about any BB included.
     
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