Paint Shop Pro Talk

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  1. Uguel707

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    Re: Paint Shop Pro & PhotoFiltre Talk

    They are very good! .... how did you get the girl to fit in the rear view mirror? Did you select the mirror area before and then pasted the girl's pic into the selection?

    the TV animation is really well done! the screen overlaps the skull properly and the timing is perfect. I just checked it in Animation Shop and you have the time lapse set to 30 each.:)
     
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    Re: Paint Shop Pro & PhotoFiltre Talk

    Hey Big Buck -

    Watch out, things you see in the rear view mirror may be closer than they appear!


    Just for the heck of it, there is another program that may be of interest. It lies somewhere between interesting and good and it is called Line Art, by Xero.

    Just look at all the free toys!!!


    http://www.xero-graphics.co.uk/freeware.htm

    there is one I haven't tried, but is there most popular...called porcelain. You know porcelain is sort of like glass. Glass! Yeah, baby!


    Oh, Uguel, My metathought was that Lattice Composer could be used in backgrounds with Bryce stuff, maybe?


    -HandsOff
     

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    right!:D

    http://www.xero-graphics.co.uk/freeware.htm

    thank you but I will check if I have it before downloading it!o_O

    Oh, Uguel, My metathought was that Lattice Composer could be used in backgrounds with Bryce stuff, maybe?

    I think yes if I import it as a .bmp!:)


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    Here's one I made to go with our space theme at Graphic Playground.
    this is what I did....(the original was much bigger though)

    1. I created the image in Bryce. Notice that it can be done in Paint Shop Pro by adding planet tubes to the background.

    2. I opened the image in Paint Shop Pro. I added a white border, then I pasted it on a large transparent background and applied a drop shadow.

    3. I converted the pic to a layer and duplicated it 3 times.

    4. I changed the first picture (or first layer) to black and white with the grayscale mode.

    5. I went to the second layer and played with the hue to change the colours
    a little and made them a bit hotter than the first picture or layer. you can take a filter for that or go to your program menu and adjust the colours to your own liking.

    6. I did not modify the last layer or the one on the top.
    So all colours remained the same on that one.

    then I used the transform tool to rotate each layer, one at a time.

    I cropped the image and saved it as a . png
     

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  4. SonyaM32

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    Re: Paint Shop Pro & PhotoFiltre Talk

    Hey all :) I hope everyone has been doing ok. Great work everyone, I will have to go back 4 or 5 pages to catch up, but I've always been way back there learning stuff anyway lol ! :)

    I am finally getting my Windows back up. I lost everything due to a virus and am having to reinstall everything, including PSP and all of the plugins I had before :( I am trying to get the visman (VM) filters back in PSP, but I am missing something.

    When I install the VM sparkle into the plugins folder,,,, the sparkle option shows up in the flyoff menu when I click on effects/plugins/VM natural/sparkle, but when I click on it, this comes up (in the picture).
    I think I am supposed to have a DLL file installed first o_O o_O I know I did it before but I cannot remember how in the heck I did it or where I am supposed to put the DLL file.

    I looked back in this thread because I think I asked this once before, but couldn't find it. :rolleyes:
    Thanks and I'm sorry I seem so confused, and so disappointed in my computer for losing all my stuff lol I guess I will learn to backup my files and keep NOD32 up and running from now on , huh? lol :D
     

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    Hey Sonya, long time no see!;) this is sad what happened to your pc, it takes lots of time and patience to reinstall everything and to be able to get your PC environment similar to the one you had before. Fortunately, many of the filters you had can be found again whether by using Google or by going to PSP filters sites. I will give you a few addresses where you can download them but before, to answer your question, there are 5 different DLL files needed to run most filter/plugins/add ons with your graphics program and that they are NOT always installed or are not located in the proper folder for your operating system.

    Here they are:

    MSVCRT10.DLL
    msvcrt20.dll
    Msvcrt40.dll
    msvcrt.dll
    plugin.dll


    And here's a place where you can download them safely.
    http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4549.html

    You need to install them in your windows\system folder

    --->before installing them, make sure that you do not have them already,
    it is not good to have duplicated DLLs on your system.<---


    For Windows2000, All DLL's go in C:\WINNT\System
    for WindowsXP: All DLL's go in C:\Windows\System

    *Notice that on Major Geeks site, they advise to install them in ''system32'',
    mine have always been installed in the previous folder, i.e. ''system" as advised
    by most filters sites and they work fine.

    You might have a look at this thread too:

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=73253

    filters sites

    http://hem.passagen.se/grafoman/plugtool/plugs.html

    this site is ugly, really! but it has good filters
    http://www.btinternet.com/~cateran/simple/

    Hope this help!
     
  6. SonyaM32

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    Thanks Uguel :)
    This time around I am having a hard time getting them to work, last time I think it was easier but it was so long ago, I can't remember, lol . I read all of the links you gave me and I know it's just me, normally I am good at stuff like this, lol :D
    I tried both sytem folder and system 32, but I would remove them from the first folder before I tried the next.
    I am pretty sure I am putting the DLL's in correctly.
    I must be doing something wrong when I go to install the visman filters into the plugins folder, I have a default plugin folder in PSP.
    Do you think there is something else that goes in with the viman? Like maby another plugin? o_O
    I am getting the same message in the above picture each time I try something different. o_O o_O
    I'll keep working on it though :thumb:
    Thanks Uguel, I don't know what I would ever have done without you ((hugs))
    Sonya
     
  7. SonyaM32

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    I finally got it :D Here is what was wrong. When I went to the regular visman website to download the entire collection of fiters, they would not work when I installed them.
    So after 50 trys, lol I finally went to a different website to get just the VM Natural filter, and they installed just fine into my plugins folder :D :D :D Whew, that was tiring, lol :D
    Thanks Uguel, I am now going to use the sites you gave me to get more :D

    Sonya
     
  8. Uguel707

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    Hey, you're welcome Sonya! I am very glad to know that you were able to install the VM filter set. That was a good idea that you had to try to download them from a different site. Some of those filter packs can be outdated or old because they come from PSP or Photoshop sites that haven't been updated for years and they do not work properly on newer systems environment, like Windows XP for instance. Also, when you go to a site that offer filters, see if there is any date that tells when the site was last updated if not, once you downloaded a new filter (or DLL), right-click on it and choose ''properties'' from the window context menu, a window will open, see ''created'' and that will give you the date it was created and ''accessed'' the last date you accessed it yourself. Beware that sometimes, they do not show the date it was created but only the date or time you downloaded it or accessed it yourself. But when you have both options, ''created and accessed'' you can usually trust the dates given.;)
     
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    Thanks, I will do that from now on ;) There's nothing like trying to install an old filter that's no good anymore :)
    I downloaded alot of new filters today from a few links in this thread, alot more effects than I had before my computer crashed :D
    I think I'll backup PSP somehow, with the filters I have installed so I don't chance losing them all again :thumb:
    Thanks for all of your help :)
     
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    Re: Paint Shop Pro & PhotoFiltre Talk

    QUESTION!

    How do you install other filters (like 8bf) on to Photofiltre? I have read on the photofiltre forum that there is a way to use photoshop plugins like 8bf in photofiltre but it is in French and I don't understand the exact directions.

    If I download various 8bf filters, where do I install them for photofiltre?

    Also does optiklabs virtual photographer work on photofiltre?

    Thank you,
    Gwen
     
  11. Uguel707

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    So glad it worked! Now that you have brand new filters and you will create
    many new images to celebrate that!;)

    Thanks for all of your help
    My pleasure! :)
     
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    Hi and welcome to the forum gwenlhaehl!:)

    which version do you have?

    You can install .8bf files in the Studio version but not in the Freeware version.
    The Freeware version supports .pfl files as plugins only. However, the Studio one supports both, .pfl and .8bf files. I do not know which version you have now if you have the Studio version I can help you to install the .8bf files.
     

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    Re: Paint Shop Pro 7 Frames

    well I'm not sure if anyone here can give me something new or not..but what the heck. I believe I found just about every frame I can possibly find through google and dogpile for PSP 7 .. However I know there are more out there.. I'm just a frame junkie I guess you can say.. I love them.. everyone has just so many great ones. I'm looking for anyone that know's of any sites to download some or If anyone would be interested in sharing their collection of frames. Again.. I'm just an fan of PSP7 and of frames.. If your interested in sharing ones you may have or any sites please feel free to email me or reply to this message. These are not for a collection to sell or anything of that nature.. I just like them.. *S*
     
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    Pandora -

    What kind of frames do you usually like, there is the "tubes" sort of variety, and then there is the (rather large in size) Frame image which you fit a picture to approach. AutoFX has tons and tons of frames, They used to have some for download, don't know if they still do...

    -HandsOff
     
  16. `mishimasan`

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    I hope you guys don't mind me posting this, it's an invitation to my summer party but it's also something I made in photoshop CS to promote it. If anyone wants to know how I made our faces blend onto the bodies of Jamie Foxx and Colin Farrell then please don't hesitate to reply or PM me.

    Enjoy xxxxx - MishimaSan p.s. it's been a long time, would like to say hello to my lovely friend Uguel.

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Miami%20Vice%20Clement%20Small.jpg http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Miami%20Vice%20Ross%20Small.jpg

    SUMMER PARTY MIAMI VICE THEMECentral London, UK
    Hosted by MishimaSan - Contact Tel. +447886629039

    www.miamivice.com

    Photographs will be taken all night. For a copy please contact me: mishimasan@gmail.com


    Age limit – 21’s and over
    Dress code – trying to stick to the fashion of the movie MUST WEAR FORMAL TROUSERS AND SHOES (Guys: suits, shirts, t-shirts, shades, Girls: suit or anything formal)

    EVENTS

    Up to 24 people to bid in for the limo will be picked up from either North London or Central (if you want to be part of the Limo tour you must contact me to reserve a place). Everyone else please be at bar Floridita (see below for details) for 9pm.

    Limo service around Central bars to Spearmint Rhino Lapdance Club. Limo direct from Spearmint Rhino to infamous Pacha London for 1am. Club closes at 7am.

    9pm – Floridita
    10 Wardour Street, W1F 0TN
    Tel. (020) 7314 4000

    Swank urban-latin vibe serving the sexiest cocktails and boasting a chilled yet quirky atmosphere… Please be aware that we WILL be having tequila shot championships here, so have your stomach and cash ready!

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    Tel. (020) 7209 4488
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    The hottest lapdance club in London… a great place to have sit back and have a tease for both men and women... can you resist?

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    Join the upmarket sprawl in this famous club straight from Ibiza, and party like there’s no tomorrow... Why not get on the Pacha photolist!

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    For VIP tables call Dana on (020) 7833 3139 or email info@pachalondon.com.

    Guys, I don't profit from this at all. This is a party that I am hosting and that I thought would bring many cool memories for years to follow. I've arranged everything so that it will run smoothly, now all it needs is the people!!

    I'm making a list of the guests, so if you're interested in coming to join us then let us know as soon as possible - what are you waiting for?!

    Clement aKa MishimaSan (and yes, that is my head on Jamie Foxx's body :p )
     
  17. Uguel707

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    Wow, You certainly mastered the Art of blending images with great ease Mish, it looks very professional to me! :) Well, thank you for the nice invitation but I'm afraid that it will be impossible for me to go, I will be heading to Canada soon and presently, I am making preparations for the trip. Also, I'm afraid that it will be too far and too expensive for me to go to a party that takes place in the U.K. :doubt: Nevertheless, I appreciate your nice invitation, in fact, I am very honored to be invited to go to the same places that Prince Harry frequented in the past...:D

    It would be nice though that you come back in the thread and tell us how you blended those pictures together. I am sure that many Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro users will appreciate it a lot! ;)

    Best,

    Hugue
     
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    Mishi -

    Really, cool invitation! It probably wouldn't hurt me to loosen up at bit, but I guess it aint in the cards. London's just a bit of the beaten track for me. Somehow, I thought you were in NYC? Well, a rolling stone gathers no moss, I guess. Sounds like a blast. I suggest you leave the guns at home, but who knows, the cuffs could come in handy. Take care!


    -HandsOff
     
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    Most important feature in an icon, you ask?

    for me, it's visability. I don't like icons that blend in, especially on the task bar. With that in mind, I pressent, my thunderbird icon!
     

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    Not a problem at all my love. I work as a graphic designer now and I've learned some tricks of the trade. I'd be very happy to come back and show you guys how I did it (it's very simple by the way, but it's all in the technique). I can't post anything at the moment as I'm far from home but when I get back I look forward to frequenting these forums like I used to. Thank you for the complements.

    CY

    But I like my gun! :'(

    Thanks for the complement HandsOff. I'll be back on shortly. And I wonder how you could think that I'm in NYC, when my location says "London, England" hrhrhrhrhrhrhr ;)

    CY

    p.s. with that icon you have on the right of the Thunderbird, take a snapshot of a young japanese cartoon character's face and slap it under there and voila - you've killed two birds with one stone. How to get a cool Thunderbird icon, and also how to create Manga-esque hair!

    :p
     
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    Mishimasan-


    That's actually not a bad idea. It has just occurred to me that you possibly like manga style drawings. It always annoys me when people say they don't like manga because that implies that it is all the same. I like the cool looking type like how Tekken are drawn. Someday I will perfect my own manga drawing, I read about the first 5 pages of a how to draw manga book, and it was actually pretty cool. Finishing it is on my someday list. Take care!


    -HandsOff!
     
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    I am very glad that you found work in a field that you like a lot and that you excel at! :) ...always eager to learn more so you're very welcome!

    ...I think I know why Hands-Off thought that, look at post 205, page 9 there's an image that you did for an university project (with you and your girlfriend) that takes place in the Big Apple.

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=74505&page=9
     
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    NOOOOOO! I forgot about that hrhrhrhr. Well since then we've broken up. It's not unfortunate though, we are both getting on with our lives. She's in Hong Kong again, and I'm working in Newcastle.

    I look so FAT! Hrhrhrhrhr. I've thinned out since hrhr:

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/Photoshoot/DSC_1041.jpg

    I'm not really enjoying graphic design that much. I think that I'll be moving back to London mid next year to study music production. You only live once, and music being something that I really enjoy I want to get into the industry producing. So hopefully I'll get into the London Music School where Bohemian Rhapsody was recorded!! :) hrhrhrhr.

    Anyway, that aside, if I have enough time I will get back on this forum tonight and go through some photo retouching and blending methods as I've used in the previous and present posts.

    CY x

    p.s. In reply to Hands-Off, I really do like anime - at the moment I'm watching a new series called "Black Lagoon". It's really awesome - I suggest that you look for it online and watch a few episodes. I think that we're up to the 8th episode or so. Good action and great animation.
     
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    Nah, you were all right on that picture and I think this one is very nice too.
    Did you take it yourself? ...I thought that you enjoyed Graphics a lot and wanted to pursue a career in that field...? Music can be good but there is lots of bands and competition out there in U.K.. But you might know better than me about the market since that you're living there presently.

    Well, looking forward to seing your new material and learn new tricks as well.
    It's always motivating to see new creations and share ideas.
    Speaking of creativity, I got a very clever Flash animation that
    you guys might enjoy watching!

    http://abum.com/file/shadow/animations/17632.swf
     
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    Blending multiple images to form a "trick" image
    Part 1

    I'll be performing this tutorial in 3 parts, so stay tuned

    Introduction

    A great way to perform mind-trickery on an unsuspecting audience, is to blend two totally different images together.. and make the result appear as if it was produced naturally.

    This can be seen put to practice quite frequently in showbusiness, or the media industry.

    Let's say for instance, an actor needs to be doing a particular stunt but it's too dangerous for them to do so. There may be a stunt double hired that looks very similar to the actor, or, the movie production team may use computer generated imagery to "mask" the stuntman's face with shots of the actor at similar angles.

    Digital imagery as you all know, has become extremely powerful - and still continues to suprise people. We can make almost anything that is produced digitally appear naturally created.

    I want to show you how I can change the appearance of one man so that he looks like myself, and to do this I'm going to start by showing you some edited images that I particularly like.

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorial1.jpg

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorial2.jpg

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorial3.jpg


    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorial4.jpg

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorial5.jpg


    Choosing your images

    When choosing multiple images to blend, it's always best to get the lighting more or less the same in both images from the start. This can be changed later to a certain degree, however it saves a lot of time and effort if the images have more or less the same intensity and angle of light (global light if you would).

    I am going to blend two images together. Here are my choices:

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorialmiami.jpg

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorialme.jpg

    Now... you are probably thinking "Yeah whatever.." but I assure you, it's simpler than it looks.

    The first image is going to be my background image. Since this is the background image I will model the lighting for my face around the angle shown in this photo.

    First steps

    The first thing that I want to do, is position my face over the actor's. Open Adobe Photoshop and let's get started (version 7 or later is very much recommended).

    Unfortunately for PC users, editing on photoshop can be a little more difficult to handle than if you were using a Mac. The interface is not as user friendly, and there are ways that I get around this.

    When using multiple images I am going to want to flick back and forth from image to image, and with a small monitor this is difficult - especially when you are zoomed in to one image (you will probably have the image maximised for full detail).

    To get more space to work from, maximise the main photoshop window by dragging the top corners to each corresponding corner of the screen. Now drag the bottom corners up to the same top corners of the screen. This is what your photoshop window should now look like:

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorial6.jpg

    *this may not appear the same on older versions of photoshop

    Positioning and angling

    Open the two images within photoshop.

    Select my face as the active image and select all by pressing CTRL+A. Now copy the selection by pressing CTRL+C. Next, select the background image as the active image, and paste by pressing CTRL+V. The image of my face should now appear in the centre of the background image.

    The head in the background is not facing the same way as mine, so what we're going to do is flip my face horizontally. Right click on the layer of my face, and select "Free Transform". Then right click again inside the free transform box, and select "Flip Horizontally". Both heads should now be facing left.

    Now we want to position the my head directly ontop of Jamie Foxx's head, but this is going to be tough if we can't see his head. So what we do is we go to the layer menu, and we select my face layer, and we can pull the opacity down to about 50%. This way we can see when the heads align.

    My head is also too large, so what we can do to scale it down, is right click on the layer, and select Free Transform again. Then whilst holding down SHIFT we can drag one of the corners into the image so that it gets smaller, but maintains it's aspect ratio.

    Once you have more or less the same sized heads, press enter to save the current state of the layer, and select the movement tool from the toolbar on the left http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorial7.jpg.

    We can't see further than the top of the image, but it would be nice to have some space above Jamie Foxx's head so that we can better manouver my face over his. So what we can do is press F once, to get the full screen editing view. This is brilliant because even if you zoom in past the borders of the background image, you can still navigate to see past the image, which allows for more room when editing.

    Zoom in until you are comfortable with the ratio of space-detail, and drag my face layer ontop of Jamie's face. It won't be an exact fit, but what you can do is use the Free Transform tool until you have it at the right size and angle.

    *good points to notice when laying images of faces ontop of each other are aligning the eyes and mouth

    Once you have it laid perfectly it should look something like this:

    http://www.mishimasan.com/Personal/Photos/tutorial8.jpg

    With the opacity on 50% you might not be able to get a good idea of the actual positioning of my face, so try shifting back and forth from 50 - 100% now and again.

    Congratulations!
    :thumb: You've taken your first step to faking an image!

    In part 2, I'm going to go through cropping and cutting the images so that the overlaying face doesn't have any extra baggage - so that it can fit absolutely perfect ready for touch-up!
     
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