my w2k_sp4 is relative strong, but I'm starting to wonder what "needs" to be running real time to open a file? currently running av, TDS3 and now Process Guard seems to have stabilized and running ok in concert. plus firewall...+++ so wondering eg even if I thought Worm Guard might serve a unique purpose, and obviously the DCS folks think it does, how much stuff do I want running in background. right now, if there is a slowdown in performance on this box not really noticeable, but if I keep adding eventually the box has to slow down. would it be better if this stuff was all integrated, if it could be. also curious why a company that makes several security apps, does not then also market an av that would do the job as well as other apps it offers while ensuring solid compatibility among security software. btw, wilder forum time is approx 12 min offset from civil time.