Oracle/Google settlement talks fail, Java patent trial to start April 16

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  1. tgell

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    Judge deals deathblow to Oracle in Google fight

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  2. Hungry Man

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    That makes me happy. The fact that this sets a legitimate precedent for Open APIs is really just nice to see. Long term technology will be better because of this, short term... **** oracle.
     
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    If only this were the end of the atrocious patent/copyright wars.
     
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    The consequences might prove to be good, but the arguments used by Google were a mix of crap and BS.
     
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    With all of your experience programming I'm sure I'll take your opinion seriously lol

    But, really, no. This passing would have been awful and it isn't difficult to understand why patenting APIs that are open and inherent to the entire language would not only have immediate repercussions but also long term due to the precedent it would set.
     
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    Refute this then. :p

    But yeah, my programming experience is 0. Too lazy to deal with all those numbers and formulas.
     
  8. Hungry Man

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    I don't care about Google's case or the points they made (on either side), only the outcome.
     
  9. tgell

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    +1 :thumb:

    It would have been a legal nightmare.
     
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    Thank you for the news :)

    Now to hit Groklaw where the celebrations will be on!
     
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    Let's see what will happen at the appeal.
     
  12. vasa1

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    I'll feel sad only if "anyone" comes out of denial. But I think that the word has gone out to the faithful to do their best to put Google down however they can. And "anyone" certainly does that.

    I'll also love to read how that other self-proclaimed authority, FM, spins this. FM wasn't much known earlier but now he's been totally exposed. Even the two companies that employed him as an "independent" sock puppet may do a rethink.
     
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    The same outcome, and that's assuming they keep their promise to appeal. Oracle never had much of a chance to begin with, and any different outcome would take years and millions of more dollars. The only thing they can hope for is statutory damage, and that's less than a million bucks. Insert fork, it's over.
     
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    lol

    What denial?

    From where?
     
  15. Hungry Man

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    arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/05/google-wins-crucial-api-ruling-oracles-case-decimated/
     
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    I understand that the decision is specific to the issue litigated so idiots are free to litigate copyright status of other apis.
     
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    Hmm...
    quoted by http://www.itproportal.com/2012/06/01/google-claims-victory-in-java-legal-dispute-with-oracle/

    but then ...
    from http://www.slashgear.com/google-scores-victory-judge-rules-apis-not-copyrightable-01231168/
     
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    This is FM on himself:
    "Out of the 700+ blog posts I've done so far (which as per today, June 1, 2012, have been read well over 5 million times (see the real-time counter, courtesy of Google, in the right-hand column) and been mentioned in articles that in my estimate have collectively been viewed many billions of times"

    I wonder if he'll use that argument to placate his employer(s).

    BTW, he's now turned his expert's eye to the Google versus Nokia/MSFT/Mosaid story.

    But he does manage to question Alsup's competence and how he conducted of the trial:
    ... if Judge Alsup wasn't unsure of his own position on (un)copyrightability, he'd never have held a copyright trial that was almost entirely about the APIs. The Federal Circuit, which has more expertise in intellectual property than any single district court, is now going to look at this."
     
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    Found this kind of interesting in the article.

     
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