Online Armor Free

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by MikeNash, Oct 11, 2007.

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  1. Hipgnosis

    Hipgnosis Registered Member

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    If you are not using the OA + which has AV built in you can use whatever AV you want. As for the firewall, you can uninstall the firewall component under the "Options" > "Firewall" tab and then use another firewall.
     
  2. EASTER

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    This is beginning to become something of an annoyance in the "free" version with online activation because i even went to your forums and read up others who are experiencing this issue consistently.

    Is it absolutely necessary to make users go thru this when it doesn't even take? I even downloaded the version that was supposed to correct the registration bug and it leaves the registration box blank with a "license key must be filled" display. Filled with what? Come on for real, statistics are nice but only when they work as expected.

    Bahhh. So any possible change to correct it at all? I noticed another pre-release i tried a few days ago already had the word FREE inserted/shaded and that one installed just fine.

    So why on earth is this for a free version? I even disabled my firewall to install it and was left hanging there.

    Any solution to this? Version 2.1.0 19 AND 2.1.0.20 = full stop
     
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  3. MikeNash

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    The problem is for most people, this just works. I do not know why for some it fails, we cannot find a consistent pattern.

    We're trying to do so, but it is very hard to fix a bug when you cannot reproduce it. Can you tell me, do you put in an email address, is it valid, do you leave the email field blank, or put nonsense chars in there? It could be something silly like you putting nonsense in the field causes a key lookup to fail due to an XML error (for example)... Right now, I have nothing to go on.


    The free version of OA is based on the OA Full product, with some modifications. Removing the activation and licencing system is a non-trivial task.
     
  4. EASTER

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    I enter the same gmail addy i been using for years since i don't use ISP email, it's entered then the registration process progress bar runs then BANG, it aborts right there on the spot at the point of showing the machine code ID number but the activation box is left blank.

    And thats the same result which infinitely repeats over and over again at the same point.

    Geez
     
  5. aigle

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    When I tried it without e-mail address, it did not activate ittslef and said activation key invalid.

    Reinstalled over it with an e-mail address and this time it activated itself automatically.
     
  6. EASTER

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    So where in tar nation do ALL interested users possibly get some registration key entered to make this app install at all?
    Online simply is not working period, why not hard code again the word free in shaded text like before so users/evaluaters can at least run the program and gain some kind of interest in it so they can test the free version?

    Sheee!
     
  7. 19monty64

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    When I installed .18, I left the eMail blank and inserted the old activation key, I was told I had reached the activation limit. On 2nd try, I entered the previously used eMail-addy, and it activated instantly. Thru trial and error I've discovered NOT to update to new versions unless I see a problem with the current version. I'm sticking with .18 'til I get an eMail to update...
     
  8. EASTER

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    I gone back to Kerio and EQSecure because this is way too much trouble then it's worth. Theres no reasonable logical reason for this online activation for a free app that could might have helped encouraged interest to go beyond this version app into a full commercial license.

    It's these very quirps that turn users off completely since it's entirely unwarranted or even necessary to waste valuable time trying to beat a dead horse that won't budge anyway.

    Someone wake me if they ever decide to change it where it can even install :cautious:
     
  9. Peter2150

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    Easter, your not listening. Mike explained it. It's not that it really needs activation, but it would be a lot of work to modify the code, since it's based on the full version. Only a few are having the problem, so why put in all that work, when you are giving something way.
     
  10. alex_s

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    It can install. I have just installed it twice with a real and rabbish email addresses to second your experience. I can't second. So, to be accurate, you should ask to wake you up if they ever decide to change it where it could install on _your_ computer ! I'm happy to realize _my_ computer is OA compatible :)
     
  11. Hipgnosis

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    I've installed the free version on a couple boxes, one using a valid email address and one with no email address and it installed just fine.
     
  12. MikeNash

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    It could be a conflict with something else you are running... I can't think what it might be.
     
  13. Gizzy

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    For me I installed without supplying an email the first time and it wouldn't activate for me so I uninstalled it and reinstalled it thinking it didn't install right but the second time I installed online armor I put down my email address and everything went fine it activated and I'm using it right now. :cool: :thumb:

    although I am having some problems I'm wondering about, explorer has crashed twice for me and online armor is the only new program I'm running, other programs have crashed since I've installed online armor but I would just make it a trusted program and it would work fine, and a few times online armor won't work right for me it won't let me open it by double clicking the firewall icon or the shield icon in the tray and if I right click the icon in the tray the menu doesn't come up and if something needs to be allowed It will let me allow or block but I can't tick the boxes (create rule, remember decision) in fact it's happening right now actually,

    anyone had any of these problems before? o_O

    all the security programs I'm running are in my signature.
     
  14. Peter2150

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    May be a problem with Threatfire. You might test uninstalling that.

    Pete
     
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    I will uninstall threatfire later and see how my PC runs,

    thanks for the reply. :)
     
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    I rememebr problems with ThreatFire and Opera discussed in this thread.
     
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    I think you are missing something here when I read this, do you mean
    "when you are giving something away free"? I think that sounds more clear (at least to me).
     
  18. Peter2150

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    I don't know any other way of giving something away.
     
  19. glentrino2duo

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    I also do not like OA Free's online activation. As much as I wanted to install OA Free to friends' computers who come to me for assistance, I prefer not to because of this feature. It still doesn't make sense to me that a firewall would want you connect to the Internet unprotected. Much more for a free software to require online activation. I do not mind registering email, with the right privacy agreement, to a legitimate company for a free software like I did to WDF. And as a programmer, I do not think it would be such a big change in the program, even if it is based on the paid version that requires online activation.
     
  20. 19monty64

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    But Windows (or other) firewall can be left on during installationo_O
     
  21. glentrino2duo

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    I know and if I like the Windows firewall that much, I wouldn't want to install OA Free in the first place..
     
  22. 19monty64

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    Windows firewall would provide the inbound protection while installing OA, that's all I meant. If you don't like OA...don't install it. I thought you were worried about online activation so I made a suggestion. Take the advice or don't. It doesn't matter to me.
     
  23. glentrino2duo

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    I appreciate your advice. But still, online activation for a free software still don't make sense to me. I like OA so much but I don't like the online activation. I know that free softwares are AS IS basis, but this is a forum. I remember that the first time Comodo went public, the installer was a headache. Though it doesn't require online activation, it needed to download something during installation. through this forum, it was brought to their attention and they listened. I actually installed Comodo then on a couple of friends' computer.
     
  24. EASTER

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    Unfortunately for some i'm afraid, like myself, theres always going to be something with these different programs like this which make for a hassle in one way or another. Consider yourself lucky when you run across a free program like EQsecure and others where all a user needs to do is install and go, no registration details, and certainly no OnLine Registration that can make for surprise consequences just like myself & others are experiencing.

    If it installs for you, then fine, hope you get your fill of satisfaction from any & all the security you expect.

    All i expected was it to install (simply) without it hitting a snag like you were trialing a full version software asking for a key.

    Thats All.

     
  25. 19monty64

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    And you only have to do it the first time. After that a new version can be installed over top so all settings are kept. I'd rather that than have my surfing activities tracked. After I reformatted, there is a couple company's products that I will not put on my pc. Just my 2c...
     
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