NVIDIA GeForce Experience

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  1. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

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    The latest version of NVIDIA GeForce Experience, which is v3.0.6.48 forces users to have an account.

    Actually, the last update I received uninstalled the old GeForce Experience version, but failed to install the new version. so I had to download the standalone installer and install it that way.

    But, I am not impressed with being forced to get an account for it. How about you?
    Or, do you know of a workaround? :rolleyes:
     
  2. roger_m

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    I don't think there is a workaround. I only found about the need to create an account this morning, after I installed the latest version of GeForce Experience on a computer on which an older version found a driver update but was unable to download it.
     
  3. Umbra

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    im not a gamer, so i don't even installed it, it is just bloat using resources.
     
  4. Brian K

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    Same here. I only install the driver.
     
  5. Hadron

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    I used to manually download and install the driver, but GeForce Experience makes it so much easier and less time wasting. Especially for other family members. :isay:
     
  6. Brummelchen

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    as it is written -> "Experience" > its experimental = waste of time for unexperienced users. and gamers are not unexperienced!
     
  7. Hadron

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    I'm not a gamer.
    I just find the driver updater to be very convenient.
     
  8. lodore

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    I hope enough people complain to get this reversed. I liked some of the features of geforce and have used the game recording feature. I mostly use it to keep the driver updated thou.
    I see no reason why i should create an account with them to use it.
     
  9. TheWindBringeth

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    http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/stor...o_latest_drivers_heres_how_to_disable_it.html

     
  10. hawki

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    Sounds to me that Nvidia is shooting itself in the foot with this one. Population of Experience users will be cut in half. Experience is hardly worth the the bloat and bother to set up an account, and if the telemetry is only in Experience, which is most likely, put a fork in it.

    Nvidia has recently been prone to bone head decisions, e.g., the false advertising on the 970 leading to a successful class action suit against it ( was settled with Nvidia refuunding $30 to each purchaser and paying $1.2 million for plaintiff's attorney's fees.)

    Unless you are playing the VERY LATEST games or a newly introduced high-end model card, the driver updates are generally of little benefit.

    Easy enuf to check for driver updates every few months. Experience does not make the install itself any more convenient.

    The Game Optimizer is convenient if you have a lot of games on your PC, but does nothing you can not do by yourself.
     
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  11. Special

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    ROFL at the outrage here, how do you even expect GeForce Experience to work without the sending of data? I bet if Nvidia renamed the "Telemetry" part to just "Crash Reporter" people would be totally fine with this. Meanwhile, everyone here also uses Steam, Battle.net, Origin, Google things, Windows, etc. even GOG.com's new game client likes to collect tons of *gasp* Telemetry.
     
  12. hawki

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    Nvidia has issued a statement in response to the hub-bub:

    "GeForce Experience collects data to improve the application experience; this includes crash and bug reports as well as system information needed to deliver the correct drivers and optimal settings. NVIDIA does not share any personally identifiable information collected by GeForce Experience outside the company. NVIDIA may share aggregate-level data with select partners, but does not share user-level data. The nature of the information collected has remained consistent since the introduction of GeForce Experience 1.0. The change with GeForce Experience 3.0 is that this error reporting and data collection is now being done in real-time."

    Commenters have noted:

    "The changelog doesn’t appear to list any newly included telemetric function and the process itself doesn’t seem to be doing anything much. From the looks of it, this will report back telemetry in the case of a driver crash or other extreme scenario. Since the telemetry was added after installing the complete driver package, at this point we aren’t completely certain whether the Nvidia Geforce drivers are to blame or Geforce Experience is."

    http://wccftech.com/nvidia-latest-drivers-telemetry/
     
  13. Hadron

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    I'm not a gamer, so I minimize all the game stuff. But, I wish it would stay minimized.
     
  14. pandlouk

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    As they did for the last 2-3 decades:
    - People/customers encounter bugs
    - they send the debug logs to nvidia
    - nvidia fixes the problem
    Telemetry has nothing to do with bug fixes and crash reports. It is only meant to collect users data/input/habits and capitalize over them...

    Panagiotis
     
  15. Stigg

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    With all the GeForce updates we've been receiving lately, GeForce Experience has at least made updating my drivers very easy.
    And why so many driver updates lately?
     
  16. Alkajak

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    A few new game releases, as well as a few botched updates.

    For those using Geforce Experience, have the fixed the "Custom Install" bug yet? The one that would force "Standard Install" anyway. I ended up uninstalling the software and using just the drivers for now.
     
  17. Stigg

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    I've just began updating to the new GeForce driver, and now GeForce Experience tells me that it doesn't recognize my login details, even though I was already logged in before I started the update.
    I'm starting to lose patience with it.
     
  18. hawki

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    "Sec Consult security researchers discovered a vulnerability in Nvidia's GeForce Experience software that allows attackers to bypass Windows application whitelisting....

    The security researchers found two possibilities to exploit Nvidia's NVIDIA Web Helper.exe application:

    Use Node.js directly to interact with Windows APIs.
    Load executable code "into the node.js process" to run malicious code..."

    https://www.ghacks.net/2017/04/23/nvidia-geforce-experience-security-vulnerability/
     
  19. Mrkvonic

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    I am a gamer and I don't use this thing. You just need the driver. The experience stuff is added fluff.
    Mrk
     
  20. plat1098

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    Ditto. There is a link in hawki's linked article to another NVIDIA issue pertaining to tracking/telemetry. Sigh.

    Edit: That telemetry article is really good, it tells you how to disable the culprits without any impact on the NVIDIA software and how it handles your GPU. Here, thanks hawki, I extracted it from your original linked article.

    https://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/07/nvidia-telemetry-tracking/
     
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  21. CHEFKOCH

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    There is now an opt-out button for telemetry/improvement program. No one need to mess with autostart or the driver files anymore.

    http://i.imgur.com/SGyip7Y.png
     
  22. Stigg

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    Good pick up.