And that's fine, no problem or argument there. I was just making a few comments from another perspective. We all see things differently and we all do what we think is best. Nobody has given up either. But we all need to acknowledge reality. I prefer to start with the assumption that there is no privacy on the internet, and then act accordingly. Works for me. Others prefer to be privacy minded as you say, and they do what they think works for them. In the final analysis, I think I'm safer with my approach. Just be aware of the limitations of your approach... I'll leave it at that.