NSA Gets Real Time Access to Your Email

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by CloneRanger, Jan 5, 2012.

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  1. CloneRanger

    CloneRanger Registered Member

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    Not new, but you may have missed it !

     
  2. treehouse786

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    interesting post. so the lesson is to not use email if your doing something nefarious. sounds easy and obvious enough
     
  3. mirimir

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    The lesson is to encrypt and decrypt locally, with open-source software, and secure keys. I doubt that they could crack messages encrypted via Thunderbird + Enigmail with 2048-4096 bit keys.
     
  4. SafetyFirst

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    "if you own “security” software produced by Zone Alarm, Symantec, and MacAfee, you are in essence throwing out a welcome mat for the NSA"

    PGP is now owned by Symantec. Something to worry about?
     
  5. mirimir

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    No, I use gpg, not PGP. I'd worry if I used PGP, though (or Windows, generally).
     
  6. treehouse786

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    is this method possible with google app emails using imap and thunderbird?
     
  7. mirimir

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    I don't use Gmail. It works with GMX.
     
  8. treehouse786

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    does anyone else know the answer?
     
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    If you're really concerned about something - don't use email at all. Use file sharing services like Dropbox, Box.net, or whatever and upload/download files Axcrypt encrypted or use very small Truecrypt containers. Rename them .mp3 or whatever. Truly sensitive communication requires sensitive treatment.
     
  10. PaulyDefran

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    True, but even though I don't do anything nefarious, I don't want somebody even reading my grandmas apple pie recipe that she sent me, without a warrant. This stuff needs to be fought at every turn. *

    PD
     
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    NSA-controlled remote admin access via IP/TCP ports 1024 through 1030.

    this is from 2007, and NSA openly said that 'helped' MS 'hardening' Windows 7 security

    say hello to NSA. :ninja:
     
  12. m00nbl00d

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    That one is priceless. :D We're already being controlled. :argh: And, doesn't anyone even consider the fact NSA is also working with the aliens? They are! :ouch: This is all part of a bigger experience. lol

    This kind of made me think of what Microsoft wants to include in Windows 8 App Store... *cough*NSA*cough* kill switch... :blink:

    They're all together in this. :ninja:
     
  13. Victek

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    Ah, the "I have nothing to hide so this doesn't matter to me" belief.
     
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    Yes the article was from 2007. A very interesting point to note is the last line:


    Starting in 2010, the Department of Homeland Security partnered with Walmart and other stores to put up giant telescreens with Janet Napolitano's face telling people to spy on their neighbors and report suspicious activity. This is part of their "See something, say something" program, in which they encourage people to report on each other. The last I heard there was supposed to be over 9000 stores with these telescreens in them. That was over a year ago.

    See this article for further info:


    http://www.infowars.com/wal-mart-invasion-part-of-larger-dhs-takeover-of-america/
     
  15. Spooony

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    They have access to that and VOIP ages ago. They acquired Narus and modded it.

    http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff388/shovenose/Funny/nss.png

    Thats from 2006
     
  16. noone_particular

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    It's getting to the point that the only way to send a private message via the internet is to encrypt it on your PC, then drop it on a site like Rapidshare via Tor. Then whoever it's intended for has to pick it up the same way.
     
  17. Spooony

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    I have nothing to hide so who ever is watching can watch. Dun careo_O
     
  18. Hungry Man

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    Well that's all well and good but while I might not care about my privacy I care about my right to privacy and I know that others care about their privacy and I believe it is their right to maintain it.

    This isn't a question of any one persons feelings towards privacy. It's a question of whether we as human beings are guaranteed rights.
     
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    That's the problem with an "I don't care" or an "I have nothing to hide" attitude. As soon as you accept something like this, they push it farther. Eavesdropping on your internet conversations is OK? What about face to face conversations in your home? Your bedroom? If we don't draw a line, there won't be one.
     
  20. Victek

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    You may not have anything to hide that would be considered against the law, but is there really no part of your life where you would not feel offended to find out that others are snooping?
     
  21. Spooony

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    It can be said, pretty much whole heartedly, there is no such thing as real anonymity online, if you do something bad enough, the people in power can find you. IP Spoofing is misunderstood in 9/10 cases and is no protection against anything. Web proxies, offer little or no protection. They are good enough if you just want to stop your school/parents/office from tracking your surfing habits, but they won’t protect you from doing time if you commit a federal crime.

    They been doing it for years. I linked Narus up there read what it is. They been Eavesdropping since 2002. Nothing you can do. Then there is Google sniffing through all your E-mails and linking them up with adds. Why you think they are so happy to give you a nice free Gmail account?

    POP3, telnet and others are plain-text and thus subject to sniffing.
     
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  22. Victek

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    We're not talking about anonymity and trying to hide criminal activity, but about privacy. The question is to what extent the privacy of the individual should be respected when there is no reason to believe they are engaged in criminal activity. You comment "I have nothing to hide so who ever is watching can watch" suggests that you have no concern for personal privacy, which I find hard to believe.
     
  23. Hungry Man

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    I have little concern for personal privacy outside of the extremes but I respect that some people do and that's why I have a problem with these things. I still believe I have a right to privacy regardless of whether I care to make use of it or not I think too many people think "Well I don't care because it doesn't effect me."
     
  24. noone_particular

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    The problem here isn't the tool but its application, along with what gets defined as a "crime". If the present trend continues, anything that reduces the amount of money big business gets from you will become a crime. Also refer to this thread:
    Facebook Gives Politico Deep Access to Users’ Political Sentiments.
    In some places, expressing dissent is a crime. Even if these "sentiments" are anonymized, I don't for one minute believe that they aren't viewed before hand or that they will stay anonymized.

    The problem isn't what each of these and others can do. It's what they can do as a whole combined with various versions of "I don't care" reactions to it that are the real problems. Maybe some think this is fine. I consider such a world to be unfit to live in. Whether it's effective or not, I will resist such a world just because I can for as long as I can.
     
  25. Spooony

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    I don't because you can't hide it.

    It has everything to do with privacy. What does the post title say? NSA again NSA. Its the government. They see everything with Narus. You have no privacy from them. Since 2006 maybe earlier already they been looking into everything. Nothing you can do about it unless you don't use your computer or cellphone simple. Again go look what Narus is.
     
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