Reading my own posts I sound like the fanatic that I'm so against. Through all that blabbering, I was just kind of angry that products can go from "Heck yes, use it" to "God no, stay away" with such a trivial thing. It isn't the first time it has happened here. We all, including me, are guilty of "fanboy-ism" from time to time, and have had certain experiences that drive us to trust/distrust or recommend or not a product/company. Sometimes though, it gets a little out of hand. I'll back up every one of you the moment I see that toolbar in Norton, or any other "surprise" added to any other product, installed without my knowledge or with no option to keep it uninstalled. Even if it is easily removable, yet is installed without telling me, I would place my trust elsewhere. But seeing the situation as it stands at least for the moment, it seems to me foolish to judge them so harshly.