Norton Antivirus/not so bad!

yes but if you go to the page last year norton had 16 expoits alone. Those are only the ones they found. We are not talking about exploits in windows here we are only talking about how many times norton itself was able to be exploited.


Also it is very sobering to see this. Myself I like nod I was surprised to see eset on the bottom of the list. Oh well I've been watching kav 2006 for my customers anyway.

 

but you are being misleading by just posting part of a statement here is the statement in it's complete form

 

"They're here!" (No, not Poltergeist, Norton bashers, not sure which are scarier.)

Acadia

 

I Posted a link anybody can go read it for themselves. As for norton bashing that's OK I get to see all the time at work just how bad it is. Anybody out that has to actually work with infected systems tells you all the same and yet everybody thinks we are just lying to them for some unknown reason.

Did it ever occur to any of you that the reason why we share what we know is to try and help. I'm sorry but I will not stick up for a company that writes pretty looking software that is easy to use and at the same time it does not work as advertised.

To me they are stealing from their customers. The only problem is there are no lemon laws yet to protect you poor people.

 

I also work on computers, I had my shop for twelve plus years and didn't see the problems with norton that you seem to. I have used norton av through several versions and did not have problems. When you are talking about the largest av company there is the chance of finding someone having problems with the product is more likely than finding someone having problems with a little known av. simply because there are more copies of norton on the market than all of the other companys combined except for mcafee. It just makes mathamatical sense. but the percentage per capatia is not that high.

 

I rest my case.

Acadia

 

I only wish for the customers out that what you say were true.

 

Well I actually tried, but couldn't do anything about it except disabling NIS while sending my e-mails.
Somebody in another forum said that this was due to a bad update from Symantec (apparently it occured in December 2004) and the same source was told from a Symantec tech. that they had rectified the mistake with a new update... My problem persisted, and as I said e-mail operation is a very important matter so I bought KAV (I thought rather than spending money trying to contact Symantec I may as well buy another security system).

 

That is why I no longer participate in this forum. I do admire Curt {BigC}, you, and others who are willing to stick your necks out to resist this infamous anti-Norton bigotry. It is sheer, unadulterated lies and bigotry. Some folks, our friend here being the most recent example, have an agenda. It is too bad some people will distort the truth to promote a bigoted agenda.

 

Randy,I think most of it is caused by people believeing in gossip or fabricated stories as gospel with out really having any real proof to what they hear and post. Like it will be, "well I had a friend that had a friend that knew someone that had an uncle that had a problem with norton av. Which immediatly makes it a junk piece of bloated crap. Bashing products takes a small mind with no imagination at all. I can't use nod on my computer but that doesn't make it a lousy piece of junk. It makes it a piece of software that has a compatability issue with something on my comp and that is all. It is still a good av I just can't use it but a lot of good folks can and do ues it with no problems. This bashing just really does not prove or accomplish a thing, it is just a big waste of time and space.

 

well put, however, it is inevitable when comparing products. some people prefer product A and others, product B. sometimes people will try to convince other ppl that their preferred product is better and thats why people start flaming or bashing. i have no problem with norton,which ive used for 3-4 years, but i prefer nod32 because its faster on older comps and it has a http scanner.

 

Norton is a hog, therefore it sucks.

 

The latest version of Norton (2005) is not a hog on 80% of the machines that I saw it running on. The remaining 20% hadn't uninstalled their AV properly, or maybe it was something else, I dont know

Right now the only problem I have with Symantec/Norton is the price (that includes upgrades/renewals etc.).

 

On how many of these computers that I keep reading about, that are running NAV, that are brought in for repair because a virus/virii wiped it out, is the NAV virus subsciption up to date?

I'm just curious because I have several friends who have had to bring their computers in for repair because it was wiped out by a virus. They all said they were running a version of NAV at the time. I always asked if their virus subscription was up to date. The answer was usually, HUH? They had no idea you had renew the subscription. They figured once NAV was installed, that's it. I wonder how many of those people I read about whose computer was over run by virii, are like my friends. NAV may have its faults, just like any other AV, but I think it gets a bum rap on many occasions by people who just want to be on the "I Hate NAV" bandwagon.

 

I run eScan free on many PCs, and in my experience, those infected PCs (i.e declared as infected by eScan) with NAV were either very old versions (say, like NAV 2001 or 2002) or had expired their subscriptions.

My old neighbours' NAV 2004 protects their PC quite well.

 

I'm a former norton 2002 user, and was happy with it. I was never infected with any kinda virus, trojan. etc. The 2002 version wasn't heavy on the resources...and my computer ran good. Here's what turned me off to norton.

The liveupdate stopped working. This in turn would cause my computer to crash. Norton would get the liveupdate fixed, and in a few days it would happen again. I finally got tired of my computer crashing and decided to search for other antivirus alternatives.

After trialing about every antivirus out there. I puchased 2 licences. Kav and nod32. I've been running kav for about 2 months now. It runs great on my computer. It's detection rate is second to none...according to avcomparatives. So until something better comes along...I will continue to run Kav and boclean.

I did trial the 2005 version of norton. There was a slight problem. After installing Norton. I tried to get on the internet. My computer didn't have the resources to run that fat hog.

I had to uninstall it.. clean the registry and try to get all that bloat out. I finally succeeded (sp)? No more norton for me. Not on this computer anyway.
Maybe when I get another computer. I may give it a trial..well on second thought.. I probably won't

 

Graystoke, You make a very valid point. I heard on world news tonight a few months ago that they did a survey. Only 18% of all computer users keep their antivirus up to date. I believe that Norton is getting a bad rap here. It's not nortons fault. As everyone knows, Norton comes preinstalled on a lot of new computers.

Most newbie computer owners think they are automatically protected when they see the norton icon. They fail to register the product and turn on automatic updating. No one ever told them they were supposed to. They just don't know. I've witnessed this myself on several occasions. I've had people call me and tell me their computer was slow, or doing wierd things and would ask me if I would come over and see if I could help them get their computer going.

I went to one persons house and his norton antivirus was never registered or updated. He had the computer for about 4 months. After we registered the norton antivirus and updated it.. Norton found 22 infections.. 1 trojan.

I then installed adaware. It found 172 infections After norton and adaware cleaned everything up. His computer ran like new again. He said he didn't know that you were supposed to register norton...he had never even heard of live update.

You can replace Norton with any other antiviruses name and come out with the same results. If the antiviruses aren't kept updated. They might as well not be there. Until the newbie computer users get educated on antiviruses. This trend will continue. All most of them want to do is head to the chat rooms, or p2ps, or pornsites.

 

Yeah,I agree with you. It is the user's fault not the programme. Norton is not perfect but it does do its job. Most of user can well protected by AV if it is up to date and correctly use. Some guru can protect themself even without AVs.

 

IMHO, KAV is more of a resource hog than Norton, but that doesnt mean it sucks. If a program offers high resource usage and very low detection rates then maybe its not the greatest AV but u still have to prove ur statements and not just bash whatever AV u hate.

agreed, this is why the best protection u can have is to use common sense and use ur brain. a computer cant do anything on its own, so why do people expect their AV to function properly on its own?

 

Personally I've removed NIS 2004 from my PC (after a struggle!) and I am trialing KAV - I really like the regular daily/hourly updates, I think that aspect in today's virus environment is very important.
From what I've seen so far I can't see any reason to go back to NIS and will probably end up with KAV Pers Pro and Zonealarm free firewall.

 

Come on back. Looks like a lot of other folks besides Big C have rallied to Nortons side.

 

I will agree with some of the people here on a few points about norton av. Some of the older versions did have a few problems, and the updater was a pain in the a## sometimes. But in the 2005 version the updater works just fine and the av runs surprisingly light. It doesn't slow my comp at all. I understand the frustration people had with some of the older versions of norton av, I had some of those problems also. But what I am trying in this thread is convey is the fact that norton 2005 is actually a very good antivirus program, regardless of what some of the illinformed bashers say. I am not trying to get everyone to switch to norton either, I am just letting a few open minded security aware people know that they should give norton av a try if they are planning on switching av programs. It has evovled into a very good product, really nothing like the older versions. But hopefully all av's are getting better as time goes by.

 

here her Big

The suite works well.

the Spamfilter works great , especialy with your yahoo account.

I been trying like hell to get Mc affee to work & I I finialy did, by uninstalling almost all my other security software including Regdefend.

On My system, I could not get the active X crap to install right without uninstalling Regdefend.
I never had that elproblemo with Norton's suite.

controler ( one of the original Norton testers )

 

It is amazing, isn't it.

I totally agree.

 

Hi Randy. I agree with The Hammer. You have helped a lot of people here and at dslreports security forum. I was sorry to see you leave there. Please don't let a few chase you away from here also.