Im glad i know a lot people injoying thier products. But we got it now, you really dont like the Symantec company - thats your decision and opinion, everyone is allowed to have that But would you please be so kind and let the Norton beta testers descuss the 09 products. We know now that you dont like it, but please.. let us who dont hate Symantec have peacefully conversations about the product we test. That really shouldnt be so difficult And again... Yes we know you dont like Symantec. Got it!