non-os hdd preventing system boot

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  1. imdb

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    hi
    i have two drives on one of my desktop systems. os drive is a ssd and the secondary drive is a hdd. when the hdd is plugged in, system isn't booting and it's stuck at boot screen. the hdd is making a clicking sound and bios can't see no drives. when the hdd is detached, system is booting as usual. any ideas? tia.
     
  2. Mr.X

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    Perhaps defective HDD.
     
  3. imdb

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    any way to access disk/data or possible to have it fixed/repaired if that's the case?
     
  4. zapjb

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    When OS hdd boots. What happens when you then attach the regular hdd?
     
  5. Brian K

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    The HD is dead/dying.
     
  6. imdb

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    the os is on a separate ssd. system freezes when i hot swap during system boot. if i attach it after i log in to os, nothing happens and the hdd is not detected.
     
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  7. imdb

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    it's not an old drive, it's detached most of the time and rarely used. possible to have it repaired?
     
  8. Brian K

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    I doubt it, sorry.

    One of my external HDs died last week. It was 3 years old but had been in use for less than an hour.
     
  9. imdb

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    i see, thank you. so what's gone is gone. darn it.

    edit: @Brian K what causes a dead/dying hdd to prevent the system from booting?
     
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  10. zapjb

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    Wait don't give up. brb
     
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    The File Or Directory Is Corrupted Or Unreadable - Hard Drive Wont Open
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix13LRGmzk8
     
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  12. imdb

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    thank you, but in my case, if i attach the hdd, the system is not booting and if i attach it after i log in to windows, nothing happens, the hdd is not detected. so, @Brian K is right i guess. the hdd is dying/dead.
     
  13. Mr.X

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    Then you need a data recovery specialist, with a dedicated lab for such operations. Obviously he could charge a lot of money for his services. You then must think how much your data is worth.
     
  14. imdb

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    @Mr.X
    not worth it.

    how about a sata to usb adapter or something similar? is it worth to give it a try? any chance?
     
  15. Krusty

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    Does it show up in Devices and Printers at all?
     
  16. imdb

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    no, it doesn't. the moment i plug it in the system freezes and gets stuck at boot screen, and the disk makes grinding and clicking noises. if i plug it in after i log in to windows, it doesn't show up even after scanning for hw changes.
     
  17. Mr.X

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    Mechanical parts are done and most likely the electronic controller card as well. There's nothing to do in this case except what I recommended about the specialist. A data recovery specialist owns a lab and a lot of HDDs models in order to pull out the platters from the defective hdd and put them into a working HDD. That way he recovers data, if possible of course. He should assess the extent of the damage and quote the recovery costs.
     
  18. imdb

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    the data on the disk is not worth it, so i think i'll give up.
     
  19. zapjb

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    Now if you're up for it. Might a time to try a crazy fix or two. Like freezing it etc. To get it temporarily working & if desired get some Data off it.

    Just Google HDD Click of Death.
     
  20. imdb

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    yeah, i saw it recommended on the net but i couldn't take the risk. i'm planning to have a specialist examine it and see if they can do anything about mechanical issues such as w/r head or actuator failure.
     
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    If you would could you detail the specialist's expertise, credentials & place of work (ie from garage to large clean room corp environment). And the quoted cost of recoveries.

    Asking because I've heard it's 5k & up for experts to recover.
     
  22. imdb

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    i'm not planning to use a data recovery service because it'd be too expensive. am planning to take it to a service station for mechanical repair if possible (and if that's the case).
     
  23. zapjb

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    Oh ok. Keep us updated. Hope you get sorted.
     
  24. imdb

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    @zapjb

    will do. thank you.
     
  25. imdb

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    so, i took it to the service station. unfortunately it was damaged beyond repair. :(
     
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