nod32 vs dr web??

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by zfactor, Mar 19, 2005.

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  1. AndreyKa

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    to BlueZannetti
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    The www.av-comparatives.org tests are a good yardstick.
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    This test didn’t use beta Adware/SpyWare base drwnasty.vdb (it gives 3% of base records increase).

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    NOD is good, & getting better faster than most other top-ranked AV's. It also has a great support forum right here at Wilders.
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    Support DrWeb forum is http://support.drweb.com/forums

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    Both programs are very good, but NOD is better at signature database, heuristic engine of both are very good, although Dr.Web may occasionally have false positives.
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    Heuristic engine Dr.Web disabled to prevent false positives.
    By the way this site have mistake in recommended SpiderGuard configuration:
    “We recommend "all files" in the Scan Mode”
    http://www.wilders.org/screenshots20.htm
    It is right way to get false alarm.

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    this is his "home" office pc. he does regularly log into his office pc's to access those files but this is the one he works at from home. his son uses it when he's not it is a really great custom alienware machine so he does a lot of gaming etc... whe his dad is not using it. he does have his own but its "only" a 3.0 p4 so his kid wants to always use the better machine.
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    The best thing that he can do it upgrade sons computer ;) and stay with old doctor.
     
  2. tahoma

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    dont want to flame either but i trialled nod32 a few weeks ago, and now im back on drweb for 2 main reasons, 1) drweb finds everything in 500 strong malware collection. nod misses a few
    2) drweb updates are realsesed every 30 minutes now! even faster than kav. with nod i was lucky to get updates twice a week.

    also drweb is even lighter on resources onmy machine.

    so, nod32 is good, but on my machine and with my usage pattern i feel drweb is better for me
     
  3. Blackcat

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    Technodrome alerted me to the very fast response of Dr Web and this is certainly a big plus for the program; http://solutions.drweb.com/

    With a Help-file now incorporated into the program and a very fast response time to malware threats. I wonder what next is in line for improvement?
     
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    With Heuristics enabled, I haven't had a false positive in the last three years. This false positives thing was a problem five years ago.
     
  5. chia

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    If the Dad won't let his son install and try NOD on the faster machine then why not have the son install it on his own slower machine and give it a go? Seems like the son is making the AV selection...unless I'm missing something.
     
  6. BlueZannetti

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    Although many like myself use NOD32 with success, there are plenty out there like tahoma and SDS909 who run the same experiment and come up with an alternate optimal solution - Dr. Web in this case.

    Objective tests imply differences are likely within the reproducibility of the challenge tests. Given that backdrop, and systems which seem to be functioning well, what's the driver for a change? In the absence of a clear shortfall in performance, "Why would you change?" is a valid question.

    Blue
     
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    *** >> In udder voids, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." :cool:
     
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    In the absence of a clear shortfall in performance, "Why would you change?" is a valid question.

    Blue[/QUOTE]


    Another excellent point from the man in Blue .
     
  9. SDS909

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    Yea if the good doctor isn't broke, then why mess? Slap the extended adware/spyware databases on the doctor, renew that subscription, and leave well enough alone.

    At least thats what i'd do, but generally the catalyst for me changing AV's is when I have a problem. So far the doctor hasn't had a hint of a problem.
     
  10. zfactor

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    yes i guess i see all of the points. you see my friend is not exactly pc "smart" he know the basics and what it the fastest and best out there as far as chips go and that kind of thing (they can afford to always have a new one) but in this case in teaching him a lesson his dada is making him upgrade him machine this time and is not paying for it so at this time he cant do it if you all understand more now. so after talking to him and getting more of a feel for what he is capable of i had him stay with dr. web he has been using it so he knows how to use it not that nod may be any harder but he has all basic settings on dr web. i do not know how well nod does out of the box without any configuring. and this settles it before even going into anything else. not to many av's will really do that much more for him if he is not going to use them to thier potential. i mentioned some of the things in nod and got a "huh" kind of response. im sure if he can use dr web he could use nod but i would not want him to sacrifice security for learning something else which im afraid might take some time. thank you all for your responses i mainly wanted to make sure dr web was an good choice for him and was a good av here. i know nod is cause i use it but do not have experience with "the good dr." after hearing all of the comments here i may even give it a whirl and see how it does.
     
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    you say that dr web is that much lighter than even nodo_O i didnt know this was possible; more info please.
     
  12. Blackcat

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    I am currently running Dr Web as a primary scanner on one of my Win XP computers.

    It has two running processes; both SpiderNT.exe; one taking up 768K VM and the second 708K VM. Both take up only about 1MB RAM. But note that these figures do not include the scheduler or Spidermail. With Spidermail a further 3784K VM is taken up.

    So overall the memory footprint is very small and virtually no effect on system performance is seen.

    NOD on my systems has a total VM usage of 9230K for 2 running processes with again virtually no detrimental effect on performance.

    The only AV I have used which has a lighter memory footprint than Dr Web or NOD is F-Prot.

    All 3 AV's are generally considered very lightweight and are therefore particularly recommended for older systems.
     
  13. bellgamin

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    With DrWeb's real-time monitor running, is SpiderMail *essential*?
     
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    Although Spidermail is supposedly very good I very rarely run with this option. For me and my systems a specific email scanner running alongside an AV RTM is not esssential. I rely on SpiderGuard and common sense.

    However, lots of other people would prefer to run an email scanner together with their AV Guard on their computers.
     
  15. Honyak

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    I trialed DrWeb a few months back on my second comp and loved it. My current AV (F-secure) is up for renewal in about 4 months and looks like I will be switching to DrWeb (99.9% certain) and bellgamin, I know you have been using DrWeb for sometime, how good is the tech support? I have read that it is not to good, what is your experience?
    I monitor it at jotti's and it seems that it performs as well if not better there as NOD32.
    BTW, I trialed NOD but had conflicts and other issues that I did not like about it.
    DrWeb was so light and I really felt like it's protection was excellent.
     
  16. Don Pelotas

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    Honyak, i'm trialling DrWeb at the moment, and in light of the reputation that DrWeb has regarding this, i decided to send a mail to see how the support would be.

    It took 16 hours for them to respond with a mail, well within my personal expectations for good support. I will try with a couple more in the remaining trial to see if i was just lucky.
     
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    IME, over several years use of this AV, Dr Web support can be very patchy and it also depends upon who you actually contact.
     
  18. Honyak

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    Thank you for the info. I had no issues to contact DrWeb about so I never did.
    16 hours is very resonable IMO.
     
  19. FanJ

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    I don't have DrWeb, but I do have ADinf32 Pro from the same company.

    If I remember me well, I emailed them twice (could be more; I should take a look in my archive for that).
    The first time was when I bought ADinf32 Pro and got the wrong licence-key.
    Extremely fast I got an answer with apologies and everything was happily solved.
    The last time I got an answer in Russian. Well, as you all know by now, I'm not exactly a genius in foreign languages, so I couldn't understand it. Anyhow, it was not so important, so I let it rest ;)


    @ Bellgamin
    I believe you wrote in this thread about DrWeb and ADinf32.
    First I would like to say that I absolutely love it; in no way I would want to run a system without it! :D
    ADinf32 comes in two flavours: standard and Pro.
    I have the Pro version.
    The difference is that in the Pro version you can use a bit stronger HASH algorithm.
    Yes, you can integrate ADinf32 and DrWeb.
    That integration works both ways.
    But please keep in mind: I don't have DrWeb so I cannot tell you much about it from own experience (I use NOD32 for on-access and KAV 4.5 for on-demand).
    Maybe Technodrome could tell some more about it, but that's of course up to him ;)

    Cheers, Jan.
     
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    As Jan said, ADinf is a very good and powerful program. I run it since ’99 and I am very satisfied and impressed with it.

    Integration with DrWeb is flawless and any new files reported by ADinf are automatically scanned with DrWeb. This configuration is very fast and I gotta say very effective. I didn’t do any tests yet, but I think this combo (especially ADinf) should be very effective against “RootKit” malware.


    tECHNODROME
     
  22. FanJ

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    Thanks TD :D

    I always love to read your input on this !

    Most warmest regards, Jan.
     
  23. bellgamin

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    I have 2 answers: (1) Support is splendid when you have a good 1-on-1 contact. Recently the contact has been Oleg.Yakushev @ antivir.ru. Trouble is, everytime I find a great contact, the Dialogue Science folks promote him. (2) Support is variable if you don't have a personal contact. It's luck of the draw.

    As to *needing* technical support -- it is very seldom needed. VERY seldom. (Knock on wood)
     
  24. Don Pelotas

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    Ok, second mail to support was sent/received in 18 hours, still very good i think. Oh, and the answer was very satisfactory. ;) :D
     
  25. tahoma

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    what is this ADinf thing really? been looking around but i dont understand what it does or what the benefits are
     
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