I've just realised once more (after trialling just about every security product there is out there), that there is no such thing as 100% secure. For the above average user, the biggest security ultimately is plain common sense. Take Defensewall for example. I hear people saying 99.99% this and 99.99% that. So what if I download a .exe file that I am very sure is safe. Obviously I would want to make it run and install correctly, thus I would "Run as trusted". What happens if this safe file happens to be carrying a deadly trojan, virus or keylogger and installs on your system without you knowing it? Sure I hear some say, that's why you go for a layered approach and you should have a good antivirus installed. But being only limited to detect with its database and heuristics, the antivirus may miss this malware that is already deeply infecting your system. The old saying of "the safest computer is one that is not turned on" is true. But at the end of the day, a layered security approach is the way to go...and demoneye, fine a back-up image of your disk/system is also useful with for example EAZfix. Just some thoughts. Would like to see some feedback on the above from some of the more savvy users on Wilders. EDIT: Oh dear, I posted in the wrong forum. This should be under "other anti-malware software" or something like that. Would the appropriate MOD please move this. Apologies and thanks.