No offense?! Yes, really!!

Discussion in 'ten-forward' started by LowWaterMark, Jul 8, 2003.

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  1. AplusWebMaster

    AplusWebMaster Registered Member

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    'Just happened to me yesterday...'got flamed (?) in the process of attempting to help a user with a problem on another board. 'Bothered me quite a bit - still does.
    "Learn somethin' new every day...". Mine consists of being more "politically correct" (ugh), and more "sensitive" (my better-half will testify to that).
    But thanks for this topic - 'learned I'm not the only one who commits the "faus pas", even if sometimes I can't figure out what is was!
     
  2. Mr.Blaze

    Mr.Blaze The Newbie Welcome Wagon

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    really must had been another bor they dont allow that here my sore but is proof of that lol

    both cheeks are still red lol

    i dontknow we have some perty good posters here at wilders sometimes i forget to say thx or coment on there post i really should do that more often
     
  3. TVfan

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    Hmm. Does watching a shitload of american tv shows help people understand your culture?
     
  4. beetlejuice

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    Along with the language and cultural barriers, I think there is another problem that adds to misunderstanding. In todays world a lot of people are just looking for someone to do something they consider "offensive" just so they can sue. Besides that, a lot of people seem to consider themselves experts in assuming they know what someone elses intent was as to what they really meant. I don't know how anyone can get inside someone elses head, especially if they have never met that person. Can't we all try just a little bit harder to "Mind our own business", before assuming things about someone else? Besides, you know what they say about the word assume.
     
  5. JayK

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    LOL, seems to me by this post you are committing the crime you are decrying against :)

    How do you know such people think that?
     
  6. beetlejuice

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    I know through personal experience. Misunderstanding somebodys intent or meaning could almost be considered natural for all Human beings. (It all started with the Tower of Babel). Before that, all Humans spoke the same language. There have been many times that others have made assumptions about the meaning of something I have said, that compared to what was actually said, had a totally different meaning. Sometimes their assumption was completely the opposite of what I said or meant. We did something when I was in school, where the teacher would have us all sit in a circle. She would whisper a story in the 1st persons ear. That person would tell the next person the story, and so on until it got to the last person. The last person in the circle would then tell the story to the teacher. 10 out of 10 times, the story would be so twisted at the end, there was no similarity to the original story. Every person put their own life experiences and assumptions into the original story, either adding or subtracting something, which is only natural because we're all different.
    I am not assuming that everyone is looking for someone else to offend them in some manner so they can sue, but it happens everyday. A lot of things that in the past would have been blown off, are now reasons to sue, or worse. There was an incident in Chicago o_O I believe where a deaf person got on a bus and signed something to his friend who had taken him to the bus station. Two gangbangers saw him signing to his friend and assumed he was using "gang" signs, and killed him. Beware the power of assumption. :( An innocent person killed because of a wrong assumption. What business was it of the gangbangers anyway what the deaf guy was doing? He wasn't threatening them in any way. He wasn't even looking at them. Sounds like it was none of their business.
     
  7. GoonMan

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    Thank you LWM Well said. :cool: :D


    Randy
     
  8. NICK ADSL UK

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    LowWaterMark At the start of this thread makes a really good point in highlighting the fact that when we post something we consider what the person we are replying to will make of it. After all we do not in most cases know that person and some people are more sensitive then others. From my own personal experience the harder you try to do what is right is misinterpreted so the replies i get back in one or two forums are personal attacks against me. Unfortunately where this happens you will always find bad administrators which allow bullying to take place. This forum has excellent admin and that is why it is one of the top forums in the world. There in reality are probably only a handful which could be considered world class. It is a pity that one bully can bring down a forum but this is often the case and there are no easy answers
     
  9. shytilwet

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    :D --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    How many forum members does it takes to change a light bulb?


    1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
    14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently
    7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
    1 to move it to the Lighting section
    2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section
    7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
    5 to flame the spell checkers
    3 to correct spelling/grammar flames
    6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid
    2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
    15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct
    19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum
    11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum
    36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty
    7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
    4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's
    3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
    13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
    5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy
    4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
    13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"
    1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.
     
  10. Cochise

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    I think you really ought to join us here shytilwet, if only to award you the Golden Fresh Baked Karma Cookie, because if your post doesn't deserve one then nothing does. It has to be the most subtle description of Forums ever.

    In admiration, Cochise, :cool: :D
     
  11. LowWaterMark

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    You're right Cochise, behind the humor of shytilwet's post there is a lot of truth related to how some topics often go in forums. It also provides a fairly accurate view of how some posters act (their overall style of interaction) in forums.

    Sometimes a humorous post can make important points in non-controversial ways. :cool:
     
  12. little eagle

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    I came here to look for answers to pc troubles and got answers that helped so thanks to all :) and if I OFFEND anyone the intent was not there .............but when your up to your ... in alagators sometime its hard to remember that your plan was to drain the pool!!
     
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    i dun wanna b the forum lurker... and say it only 1 day after... that this shud b one of the finest ever posting in any thread any forum... cant help it.... damn... u have to b registered to get the cookie :'(
     
  14. eyespy

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    That is a classic !! :D :D :D

    Thanks for the chuckle!!

    (Bill wipes tears from eyes) :D


    Regards,
    bill :)
     
  15. GoonMan

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    :D :D :D :D :D Very Good ty


     
  16. ArchAngel_8

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    :cool: GREAT post LWM.... and as I read through the replies, it seems the members of this forum are all "good" people who appriciate your post as well! If only we could get the World leaders to think like Wilders Forum members!...lol :eek:
     
  17. Valkyri001

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    :DI somehow new this was the right place to be. :D
    As a new member this adds greatly to my confidence level.
    ?did i spell that right?
    My forward apologies if I ever do that to anyone!!
    Thanks LWM
     
  18. subratam

    subratam Registered Member

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    Valkyri,
    its only short time u have joined and u have already made ur presence felt with ur nice, compact and emoticonfull :) msges.
    its nice to have u here and i must say one thing, it seems u r quite xploring around here ;) , posting allmost everywhere which is really cool..
    carry on... take care
    we are with u....
     
  19. P.T.

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    I have to agree that this is a wonderful thread. We need to keep in mind the points that have been made in this thread. We are all different, with one strike against us already. We are miles away from each other meeting in a common area on the Internet. We can't see each others facial expressions or the emotions that others are feeling at the time of the post. We are from different backgrounds and cultures, different ages ect. Everything that is posted is best taken with a grain of discernment. Giving the other person the benefit of the doubt.
     
  20. slammer_JvA

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  21. JayK

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    No one would mistake you of being a lurker with your curent rate of posting. :)

    You can probably get away with posting immediately here, but other forums (in particular some usenet forums) will eat newbies alive if they don't read the FAQ first.
     
  22. Valkyri001

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    :DBeing new to all this, I seem to enjoy reading this thread best. As I was trying to figure out what a lurker was. I realize that since my job takes me away from home for extended periods of time, 2-3 months to be exact, and as I'm certain I will be back here to continue my learning / visiting / building new friendships...
    Y'all get the picture, I hope I figure out what needs to be done so you don't think I've been "lurking" for two months. I do think that as I read some threads that many of the Q's actually come from last years stuff. How can I deal with that?
     
  23. snowbound

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    Hi Val :)

    Definition of a lurker ;),

    http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/l/lurker.html

    U definitely do not qualify as u are actively participating in posting here at Wilders. :cool:

    I like that u said u want to continue your learning/visiting and building new friendships because IMHO that is what Wilders is all about. :)

    Questions old or new does not matter. What matters is people helping each other to solve whatever issue or problem that they have, or just to come here to have fun! :D




    snowbound
     
  24. Valkyri001

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    ;)That's definately going in the books "to read".
    Thanks Snow!
    :D
     
  25. slammer_JvA

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    IMHO 2, Snowbound (rehi! :))

    and that is why I believe -to return to the subject :D- that in general, nobody here is intending to offend or pick on an other....
    let's keep that in mind and we'll all c o m m u n i c a t e with patience & pleasure.

    Have a nice day
    slammer
     
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