No normal words for it: this is internet too...

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  1. Smokey

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    Child porn Web Sites have more than doubled in the past year and Internet pedophiles are devising ever more cunning ways to avoid detection, British police said on Thursday.

    More than half of the child porn sites are hosted in the U.S. while the number based in Russia has doubled, the National Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS) said in its annual report.

    The Internet has led to a huge growth in child sex offences, with computer-based images of young children, even babies, now largely replacing printed material.

    The number of Web Sites containing images of child abuse rose by 64 percent in 2002 from the previous year, NCIS said in its report based on intelligence from around the world.

    Child porn sites may be hosted in one country and managed from elsewhere, making it difficult for police to trace the -- mostly male -- offenders and identify victims.

    "One of the things the Internet has done is to internationalize the child pornography business," a NCIS spokesman told Reuters. "This has made it easier for offenders to escape law enforcement agencies across borders."

    But British police scored a success last week when a trainee teacher was jailed for 18 months for trying to buy a nine-year-old Lithuanian girl for sex over the Internet.

    NCIS warned that online sex offenders were becoming much more sophisticated in their attempts to avoid detection.

    "Protecting themselves against law enforcement is a key concern and some online child sex offenders openly discuss methods for keeping their activities from the police," the report said.

    If an offender puts members of a network at risk, for example through unauthorized passing on of illegal images, he is likely to have his computer targeted with viruses.

    Other methods to avoid detection include specialist systems to debrief people who have been arrested to learn more about the monitoring techniques used by police and Internet watchdogs.

    Online guides to all aspects of child sex are available, with links to chatrooms and the passwords needed for access to illegal images.

    Even though most sex offenders act alone, the report said that organized gangs had been tempted into the trade by the profits involved.

    Last year, one of the largest investigations into child porn on the Internet, Operation Ore, resulted in over 1,000 arrests in Britain after U.S. authorities passed on a list of more than 7,000 British men suspected of using their credit cards to access sites containing abusive images of children.

    Source: Reuters, London
     
  2. Detox

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    o_O I hafta say this is against what I always.. well assumed I guess... That all that kinda stuff was mostly hosted on some small island somewhere that the law hadn't been able to touch yet... Really surprised me about more than half being in the US! Obviously, I didn't know what I thought I knew!
     
  3. Mr.Blaze

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    will its just like normal life theres criminals every where its just high tech

    im not surprised at all by it

    on my first year on the net as an inexperince person useing the computer for the first time looking for free porn i ran in to this kinda sick stuff.

    id type in in search engines looking for free stuff and end up geting something other then what i was looking for

    stuff that would make you wat to bleach your eyes out

    also not to mention child porn spam e-mails

    if your like me and your an adult looking for free adult content you will run into these websites along with disturbing bestiality.

    the way this is done is threw legitement adult web masters sites

    this is how it works

    lets say your looking for adult content

    lets say costume or cheerleader or co eds

    you end up at a huge site with free porn

    first thing you do is start clicking on the links
    which usealy results in referals to paysites with lies of free porn

    now your back at the main web masters website clicking on more links looking for the damn free porn they said they have

    you click on a link algain and next thing you know your spamed with stuff you wish you never saw

    whats actualy going on as leditement porn sites have something called tradeing trafic thew referals

    many child porn webmasters sneak in one of there sicko links on to a legitement webmasters site with one of these trading trafic web sites

    diguising it as something other then child porn


    when i started with the pc i didnt know anything all i wanted to do was play video games and when i found out i could get free porn i was like oh hell yeah man didi learn to regrit just clicking on links blindly.


    after some time learning security i learn to protect my self fom most spam and fake referals and dialers

    with proper security and web filtering and software you can avoid most fake links

    by blocking url's or even ie settings

    for example not allowing javah or active scripting

    child porn is every where its almost as common on the net as viruses

    learning how to protect your self threw security is the best way to go

    aol has some nice web filtering fetures and spam blocking

    i sugest aol with any one that has children
     
  4. Smokey

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    Nowadays nothing can surprise me anymore, even the fact that more than half of the child porn sites are hosted in the U.S. is not surprising, don't forget dirty earned money is very important for many greedy people on this planet included them in the U.$.

    Very sad is, that so many sick people need porn about children and even babies, and for that fact I have no normal words, I can give here expression about my real feelings but because Wilders Security is a decent forum I don't do so in the way I really want.
     
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    They'll always be sick people who will corrupt everything thats good and maybe make a few £/$.
    The internet is/was a wonderful place where you could find absolutely anything, and its for this reason that it attracts the sick people.

    But we can either give up on it or try and fight it.
    In the UK recently we had a major bust that nabbed thousands of these sick perverts, amongst them was 80 Police Officers,many Teachers, Social and Childcare workers, the very people we rely on to protect our children.

    But its just a drop in the ocean i fear.
     
  6. Smokey

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    Doing nothing against such dirt is not a good alternative, we must fight against pervers behaviour, remember, every caughted drop is a success, especially when it concerns the dirty business in child and baby porn.
     
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    Yup - I guess what I really meant wasn't that I was surprised that Americans would do this stuff, but that that many Americans would be getting away with doing it here on our own soil... I suppose I thought our law enforcement had been more effective in getting at least the people HERE where we can definitely do something about it; which would leave the people in "business" so to speak in other countries where the US authorities didn't have as much control. I certainly hope our agencies can clean this stuff up - but then again most measures that would make their job easier would also lessen the basic online privacy of all individuals...
     
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    And that fact will remain always the big question: is privacy more important then law and order, even when it concerns the fight against dirty porn criminals?

    In other words: is the privacy of an idividual more imporant then the safety and human rights of our children?
     
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    :cool: will in main land china the law for drug traficing is death by 3 cent bullet

    i think if usa passed law saying anyone cought beyond resonable doubt aka kidnap children movies with the adult in qustion basicly overwhelming evidence

    no one would object to the law if it were put the context any pedofier cought with overwhelming evidince... snipped - there are limits, and this is one of them - paul

    i dont think even many pro life activist would argue for pedofiers

    those that did would be in the minority

    ...snipped for one and the same reason - paul

    i bet if such a law with Penalty of death would stop such crimes algaints children

    and who in congress would argue algaints it.


    also im perty sure almost all countrys would side with the usa on it makeing it so criminals in other countrys can be procecuted here or there with same punishment.

    its a powerful law but in the intrest in protecting are children i think that law would easly pass

    i know most woman would be up for it

    very strong statement i know but its the truth and it blunt
     
  10. Tinribs

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    Detox, no offense but why do you think that American authorities would be any more capable of stopping this vile practice than any other countries?
    Ineptitude and corruption are a worldwide phenomena.

    The big bust I deatailed earlier was instigated from American intelligence (in fact an american based server) so dont be downhearted mate it IS working.
     
  11. Detox

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    Tinribs - no offense taken - I wasn't necessarily saying US authorities would be more capable per se - but I can see how it sounded that way. The fact is, this garbage just isn't illegal in plenty of tiny little countries around the world. It is illegal here, and I expected most well developed countries which have outlawed such material to have cleaned their own soil as well as possible. Obviously, as well as possible just isn't as much as I thought. In my mind; I figured all powers such as the US and GB (and a pretty long list of others) would have pretty much ousted this stuff ontheir own land and the remnants would be in little countries where the material is not outlawed and international action had/would/could not be taken.

    Long story short; I guess I considered these nasty people easier to track down than they appear to be.
     
  12. Uguel707

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    I think it's great time for any country jurisdiction to put measures in place to protect children from this abuse. :'(

    Uguel
     
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    Aaahha! tell it to the Judges who let these predators off, when caught, with a light slap on the hand. There is no deterrent - business as usual. :mad:
     
  14. Dan Perez

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    precisely why measures need to be taken, it is obvious the present ones are doing too little :'(
     
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