new website : www.firewallleaktester.fr.st

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  1. gkweb

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    Hi

    i just finished a website : www.firewallleaktester.fr.st

    This site references all available leaktest and describe each. In addition it allow you to download each leaktest to test your firewall.
    At the bottom, there is a page with results between the most famous personal firewalls, it isn't full for now, but i rely on you to help me to add results :)

    To discuss results or add information, there is a forum.

    I hope it will be usefull and you will enjoy it ;)

    Cheers,

    Guillaume/gkweb.
     
  2. controler

    controler Guest

    Nicely done gkweb ;)

    Your new site looks promising and we all wish you the best.
    Now if we can only get the gang to make suggestions and
    help in your venture

    con
     
  3. gkweb

    gkweb Guest

    thanks you :)

    i'm always working on it, there is so much to do about leaktest, i hope to improve it, we'll see :)

    regards,

    Guillaume/gkweb.
     
  4. JacK

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    Hello,

    Nice job but most results are better when good FW settings.

    SSM stand alone or in conjunction with any FW allows to pass all leaktests with flying colours.

    Rgds,
     
  5. Bowserman

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    Yep, definately looks promising gkweb ;). But as Jack said, if you have SSM, you can defeat all leaktests :D.

    Regards, Jade.
     
  6. gkweb

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    yea, of course, but if SSM makes my PC hanging? (XP + SP1 + all last update)

    Even if not, that's not the pb. My point of view is : to have SSM is a good point, but is it because you have a good guard that you install a useless leaked software with it?

    not me :)

    In addition, my mother has his own comp that i protected myself, and i'm not very sure that she would be able to deal with SSM alerts ;)
    (the firewall installed has is config fixed, no more alert)

    And as i already said to jack on another post, all results are with firewall at highest settings, and if i done this website it is to inform everyone (included me) on firewall quality, after that, some will like it, some won't, but in all case, it's usefull to know the protection degree that personal firewall offers, at least for me! ;)

    It's not to tell you to do this or that, it's just information :) and you can use it to improve your security.

    P.S : don't say this to anyone, but when i'm testing a firewall at highest settings and it leaks to a simple old leaktest, i laugh while one hour ! :D it's the funny part of that ;)

    regards,

    gkweb.
     
  7. JacK

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    Hello Guillaume,

    I cannot say for other FWs but for instance with strong settings, OPv2 passes Oops and I Get 9/10 on AWFT.

    There is no problem at all with SSM and WinXP. If you encounter any glitch, feel free to contact Max.

    Same applies to SSM as to any FW when properly configured no more useless alerts ;)

    Regards,
     
  8. gkweb

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    9/10? if i could have at least one or two other persons that could confirm, i'll modify the results "5/10" on the site.
    (me i can't test AWFT because i have pb of default browser on my comp)

    About SSM, i'll give it a try again, last time when it crashed my comp while i had good download with emule, i was a bit angry ;)

    I'll probably add SSM as an advice regarding firewall leak, but the website still focusing only on leaktest, only on software filtering.

    Thanks for your opinion, feel free to add opinion like this in the future on my forum :)

    Now.... max? where are you max? max! ^^

    regards,

    Guillaume/gkweb.
     
  9. SmackDown

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    Nice job on the website.
     
  10. _anvil

    _anvil Guest

    That are news to me, too. When I tested Outpost2 vs. Leaktests not long ago, it got only a few points in AWFT and failed Oops (note: Oops only works on NT/2000/XP systems.)
    _How_ did OP2 passed in your tests (which alarms, log entries,...)?


    To SSM: can someone please redo the test with the _current_ copycat version (http://mc.webm.ru/)? For some reason, this version is _not_ blocked by SSM on my PC anymore... :eek:
    Max?

    BTW: Nice website, gkweb! :)
     
  11. Bowserman

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    G'day :).

    Look in your SSM folder and see if the .dll pictured is the same version as screenshot?

    Regards, Jade.
     

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  12. zOK

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    Your site is well done, I will be recommending it.
     
  13. _anvil

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    @Bowserman

    I use WinXP, so it is the 'mchooknt.dll', which counts. ;)
    But I am pretty sure, I have got the most recent version. It is: 1.14.0.13

    Could anyone try it (with WinXP), please? :)
     
  14. gkweb

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    thanks you ;)

    about Outpost, if you could be agree, i would be able to put right results. For now, results shown are under XP at highest setting, and should be the right results.

    Anyone else with results that can confirm 5/10 to AWFT or 9/10? and the failed or success with Oops ?

    regards,

    Guillaume/gkweb.

    EDIT : SSM blocks copycat on my comp.
     
  15. JacK

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    Hello,

    For AWFT to get 9/10 : you must set on paranoiac : then you just fail the first test (a bit strange, it's the simplest)

    As for Oops, you must untick DNS rule in System and add a DNS rule with your ISP' DNSs for each partially allowed application and of course NO trusted application at all.

    Rgds,
     
  16. gkweb

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    I have a little problem to execute leaktests which need a default web browser, it's a Windows XP technical support what i need, where can I expose my pb ?

    (i don't have any default web browser, and even when IE ask if it should be and then i click OK, it doesn't change anything...)

    if someone could help me :doubt:

    thanks.

    Guillaume/gkweb.

    P.S : which operating system have you Jack ?
     
  17. JacK

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    Hello,

    As you are French speaking, best support about WinXP is
    news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.fr.windowsxp

    I am running WinXP Pro SP1 always up to date.

    My default browser is Opera v7.11.
    If you prefer IE as Default Browser :
    IE\Outils\Options Internet\Programmes and tick "au démarrage, vérifier que IE etc..."

    Rgds,
     
  18. gkweb

    gkweb Guest

    thanks for the newsgroup :)

    About Outpost, we have same OS + update, so i'll retry tomorrow, may be i missed something ;)

    regards,

    Guillaume/gkweb.

    EDIT : i posted a poll on my forum, if someone interested... it's before all for you ;)

    EDIT PS : you should be able to post without signin and login, i know sometimes it's boring to register to multiple forum :D
     
  19. JacK

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    Hello,

    OP Pro v2 stand alone : tooleaky passed

    Rgds
     

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  20. Phant0m

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    Hey

    Keep in mind not to base majority results with facts, many things plays a factor like the differ Microsoft Windows versions, and what’s currently running in the background and whether or not you using Internet Explorer or Opera or other-than when using Leaktests like TooLeaky.

    Example;

    Jack, is Internet Explorer you Default browser and was that currently running or not?
    Or is Opera your Default browser and was that currently running or not?
     
  21. root

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    Yes, there are a lot of variables. There is also the knowledge of getting the most out of your firewall.
    I know David, has been able to pass all firewall leak tests with Outpost 2, with the exception of Thermite. Oops will pass if the component level is set to high. Others have posted similar results in a thread at the Outpost forum.
    I think people need to understand that using some one elses evaluation of the ability to pass such things as leak tests is not necessarilly going to reflect the same results they may get on their machine. I got turned off on leak tests long ago when I found out that the premise was, "if you do this and don't do that, and download this program, install it and run it, and you have a certain browser open, your firewall will fail"
    Just another situation that shows the first line of defense is the brain. If you use it, you have a good chance of being safe. :D
    As usual, just my 2 cents worth. Take it or leave it.
     
  22. gkweb

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    It's not so difficult i think.

    results on the website are regarding the worst case for the firewall (his environnement under 2000/XP, browser opened, etc...) with his highest settings, i'm interesting to the limits of the firewall, not the case where for instance the browser is closed and leaktest passed successfuly ;)

    It's the point of view of the website, so obviously, from me.

    in "highest settings" i'm talking about highest parameters, and about OS 2000/XP which provides to firewall a better support for DLL detection.
    At this point, some disagree are cleared ;)

    I don't want of cases where we "help a little" the firewall.
    We can't say to passed a leaktest if we for example aren't launch IE (if just this fact failed the leaktest), why? because leaktest are a trick shown with a specific aimed software, so if you close it, you are showing that you passed the specific test, not the trick which in theory could aim any other application, IE is often aimed by leaktest because most of people have it. So if the fact of close it help to passed the leak, it's not the good way for me. But if after all test the leaktest is still blocked, ok, the leaktest is passed.

    @Jack

    I didn't put Outpost to paranioac mode to test tooleaky, it's a miss from me, tomorrow i will do it and add your results if i can do it too (that will be the case), thx for your help.

    @phantom

    yes, you are talking about factors that can changes results, and so i just said what are my criteria, and you seems to say that i said, we don't want of factors that help firewall, we want strong results.

    @root

    about the knowledge of getting the most out of our firewall, the new poll on the website forum is about this, good point for you ;)

    @all

    At the end, yes few results are not so easy to point out, but some are. For instance Kerio 2.1.5 against thermite, try it if you want :)
    All of that leads to real value of firewall, this why it is good to look at the truth.

    regards,

    Guillaume/gkweb.

    P.S : root :
    quite right ! ;)
     
  23. gkweb

    gkweb Guest

    ok Jack, i didn't be able to wait more, i just tested and you are in right, outpost 2 well configured passes Toolleaky and Oops.

    Thanks for your help ;)

    regards,

    Guillaume/gkweb.
     
  24. Phant0m

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    That still doesn't tell us much....
     
  25. gkweb

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    Configured to paranoiac detection mode with Internet Explorer as a trusted application, global system DNS disabled and DNS allowed only for application, Outpost doesn't show an alert when Tooleaky try to lauch IE but finished on the same screenshot of Jack.
    For Oops it shows an alert and we can block it.

    But for AWFT, i done tests so much time... and it only does 5/10, no more.

    regards,

    Guillaume/gkweb.
     
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