New automatic update task (need experts)

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  1. zonda

    zonda Registered Member

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    Can I create a new automatic update task that will be
    run repeatedly every 30 minutes?

    I heard somewere (Marcos said) that even if you create such task, the minimum time for
    automatic update task is 60 minutes.
    so even if you create a task that will run an automatic update every 30 minutes, the task will still run every 60 minutes and not 30 as you set it (or the task is not going to work)

    1) Does this information is correct?
    2) Is there any way to create a task that will do an automatic update every 30 minutes or sometime below a hour?

    IF the minimum time for a automatic update task is really a 60 minutes, I have some more questions:

    3) Why do you make it like that? (60 minutes minimum time for
    automatic update task)
    4) Can I create a new automatic update task that will be run every 90 or 65 minutes? and as a result, it will do an automatic update every 90 minutes (the new task) and 60 miniutes (the default task).
    5) Can I make couple of automatic update tasks? (what is the minimum?)

    Marcos or someone else qualified to answer all of my questions, please respond

    thanks.
     
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  2. zonda

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    someone? Marcos?
     
  3. zonda

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    What is going on with the support here?
    I bought EAV, I deserve a respond from the support team.

    please answer my questions.
     
  4. Marcos

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    1, yes
    2, no
    3, the main reason is to prevent overload of the update servers
    4, updates will still be run in 1-hour intervals
    5, there is no limit, but updates will always be run in 1-hour intervals
     
  5. zonda

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    thank you Marcos!

    I have some more questions:
    1) so arw you saying that therte is no point to change (more/less) the 60 minutes (1-hour) interval?
    2) can't it be possible to create another autamatic update task THAT run (autamatic update) in 1:30 hour (90 minutes) intervals?
    (in addition to the default 60 min task)
    3) so what is the point to allow to edit the autamatic update task if it does not work?

    please respond a detailed answer.
    and again thank you!
    I really appreciate your hekp and support.
     
  6. Marcos

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    1, right, updates can only be run in 60-minute intervals at least.

    2, updates will not be downloaded in less than 60-minute intervals.

    3, you can edit the update tasks if you want to update less frequently, or if you want to update from a local mirror created by Business edition
     
  7. zonda

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    so does a new 90 minutes automatic update task in addiition to the default task will work?
    it will update every hour (60 minutes) intervals (the default task) and after 90 minutes, so-
    will it do update 30 minutes after the 60 minutes task?
     
  8. Marcos

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    It will update in 1-hour intervals as I have explained above. There's no need to create an additional update task or edit an existing one unless you want to run the update less frequently than every hour.
     
  9. spelunk

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    If you have two tasks scheduled for 60 and 90 minutes, you will get the following pattern happening:

    00:00 - Start
    01:00 - 60 minute run
    01:30 - 90 minute run
    02:00 - 60 minute run
    03:00 - 60 minute run AND 90 minute run
    04:00 - 60 minute run
    04:30 - 90 minute run

    So .... even overlooking what Marcos has said regaring the fact updates can ONLY be downloaded at a minimum of 60 minutes, the 90 minute schedule task would NOT do what you wanted.
     
  10. zonda

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    Marcos / spelunk:

    How do I change/set/change/check the start time of the scheduler tasks?

    but you said automatic update task will not work less frequently than a hour,
    so what are you saying? I'm vey confused here.
    sorry but I misunderstood you.

    and If I will make two new automatic update tasks (every 70 minutes and 80 minutes) and I will set the same (00:00) Start time (still don't know how to set it though) FOR all the three automatic update tasks (the default 60 minutes one, and the two tasks I created - 70 and 80 minutes automatic update tasks)

    will I get the following pattern happening: ?

    00:00 - Start
    01:00 - 60 minute run
    01:10 - 70 minute run
    01:20 - 80 minute run
    02:00 - 60 minute run
    02:20 - 70 minute run
    02:40 - 80 minute run
    03:00 - 60 minute run
    03:30 - 70 minute run
    04:00 - 60 minute run and 80 minute run
    04:40 - 70 minute run
    05:20 - 80 minute run
    05:00 - 60 minute run
    05:50 - 70 minute run
    06:00 - 60 minute run
    06:40 - 80 minute run
    07:00 - 60 minute run and 70 minute run.

    and so on. right?
     
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  11. zonda

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    sombody?
    I bought EAV, I deserve a respond from the support team.

    please answer my questions.
     
  12. Marcos

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    I think I have already explained in details that an update task runs in 1-hour intervals at minimum. You needn't add additional tasks and play with them since it won't have any effect on the update frequency. Amen
     
  13. zonda

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    How is your respond answer my questionso_O?
    I think you don't read/understand my post or you choose to ignore it.


    1) How do I set/change/check the start time of scheduler tasks?
    2) I KNOW THAT an update task runs in 1-hour intervals at minimum
    If I will make two new automatic update tasks (every 70 minutes and 80 minutes)
    70/80 minutes > hour (60 minutes)
    and I will set the same (00:00) Start time (still don't know how to set it though) FOR all the three automatic update tasks (the default 60 minutes one, and the two tasks I created - 70 and 80 minutes automatic update tasks)


    will I get the following pattern happening: ?

    00:00 - Start
    01:00 - 60 minute run
    01:10 - 70 minute run
    01:20 - 80 minute run
    02:00 - 60 minute run
    02:20 - 70 minute run
    02:40 - 80 minute run
    03:00 - 60 minute run
    03:30 - 70 minute run
    04:00 - 60 minute run and 80 minute run
    04:40 - 70 minute run
    05:20 - 80 minute run
    05:00 - 60 minute run
    05:50 - 70 minute run
    06:00 - 60 minute run
    06:40 - 80 minute run
    07:00 - 60 minute run and 70 minute run.

    and so on. right? Will it really work?
     
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  14. Marcos

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    The time is counted from the start of the kernel service. If you schedule 3 tasks, one every hour, the second run every 90 minutes, and the third one run every 45 minutes, the update will be run every hour since the start of the kernel service (ie. let's assume the kernel starts at 00:00 so the update will be run at 00:00, 01:00, 02:00, etc.)
     
  15. zonda

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    thank you.
    by "kernel service" do you mean ekrn.exe?
    64bit version does not have ekrn.exe!
    will it run update when ekrn.exe/Kernal service start?
    I understand the 45 minutes task will not work (45<60) so it will not update
    at 00:45.
    but why the 90 minutes task will not work?? (90>60) so it suppose to run and do update at 01:30!
    so will the update run at 01:30? and if not, why?




    actually you still don't answer my questions:

    1) How do I set/change/check the start time of scheduler tasks myself (and not the time for the start of the kernel service) ?
    2) If I will make two new automatic update tasks (every 70 minutes and 80 minutes)
    70/80 minutes > hour (60 minutes)
    and let's say the start time for the kernel service is 00:00.
    so for order:
    3 automatic update tasks:
    60 minutes task (the default 1 hour task)
    70 minutes task (I created)
    80 minutes task (I created)

    will I get the following pattern happening: ?

    00:00 - Start
    01:00 - 60 minute run
    01:10 - 70 minute run
    01:20 - 80 minute run
    02:00 - 60 minute run
    02:20 - 70 minute run
    02:40 - 80 minute run
    03:00 - 60 minute run
    03:30 - 70 minute run
    04:00 - 60 minute run and 80 minute run
    04:40 - 70 minute run
    05:20 - 80 minute run
    05:00 - 60 minute run
    05:50 - 70 minute run
    06:00 - 60 minute run
    06:40 - 80 minute run
    07:00 - 60 minute run and 70 minute run.

    and so on. right? Will it really work?
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2008
  16. spelunk

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    Zonda

    What Marcos is saying is that the ESET code will NOT allow more than one update per hour. It makes NO difference HOW many scheduled events you make OR what time intervals you give; the ESET code will ONLY attempt an update at a minimum of 60 minutes (1 hour) from the last time an update was performed.

    I also hate to say but the 64 bit version DOES have ekm.exe; this is the service called "Eset Service".
     
  17. zonda

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    Marcos- please reply that this is what you mean and there will not be any update at 01:30 in your examples.

    and there is not any ekm.exe file in the 64bitv installation files.
     
  18. doktornotor

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    Yeah, there won't be any update, why don't you just try it yourself? What are you exactly after? Hammering their servers every two minutes? :rolleyes: :thumbd:
     
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