Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by sg09, Jun 3, 2011.
I also like this app very much, please release a new version!
ERP still features on NVT home page: http://www.novirusthanks.org/
If not, then why he after watching all these posts of us, doesn't bother to explain anything and tell everything just fine... and prove it by finishing ERP as a final stable release.
This discussion reminds me of "Secure Folders" - yet another useful app that has been abandoned by its developer.
Huge differences. NVT website active, and developer is here with his other products. Secure Folders is really gone.
Yes, there is a slight difference. OK, let me put it this way. NVT is temporarily/currently abandoned. Let's hope things will soon be back to normal.
I don't get it..... back to normal. What exactly are you expecting. This program is already very mature, and 100% then Faronics Anti Execicutable, which is considered the professional best.
"Normal" refers to his support here at Wilders. The developer used to be pretty active here on a regular basis, but he hasn't been seen here for quite some time.
He was last here Dec 12th. Bottom line, it is what it is. Everyone has a choice, either use ERP or don't. Personally I see nothing to worry about, ERP is protecting me.
I see nothing to worry about either, because I don't use NVT. It was just meant to be an "observation", that's all. Sorry for the confusion.
I just tried out EXE Radar for the first time since version 1. Very impressed with it. I gave it a trial run a few years back. I liked what what I saw, but elected to go in a different direction. I think that was a mistake. It has matured into an outstanding program .
I didn't even know about some of the tools. Did you guys check out Hidden Process Finder, and did it find anything on your systems?
Andreas really should make them all portable; they are very useful , but not designed for daily uses, so i wont install them to bloat my system ^^
Curious, I imagine you as a fan and user of Faronics Anti-Executable.
I think the problem is my post didn't quite come out right. Faronics is the business usage one. I don't use it. ERP is on all my computers, and on those of people I help. I think it far superior to the Faronics AE.
Coming from you Pete that's quite the endorsement.
Never quite looked at it from such a product comparison standpoint since it's now been since XP that I even used Faronics AE but now that you mention it ERP "IS" all of that and much more. What else should anyone expect out of a pretty solid freeware security app "as-is" right? Anything extra added to it again (if ever) would only be more of a bonus. As far as bugs that some discover I can understand their concerns but if something isn't compatible there ARE other alternatives.
The problem with Faronic is that it lacks:
Ability to white-list command lines
Ability to block .vbs, .js and other script files (only .bat can be managed)
No Alert Mode (needed for legitimate use of vulnerable processes)
Windows and safe soft updates (updates must be performed manually after disabling protection)
It does have one neat feature:
Clean install OS
Install desired softs
Run white-listing scan
Entire system is white-listed (.exe, .dll, .com, .bat, .scr - as you can see, really limited in this regard)
Also, after updates and protection is re-enabled, all files are white-listed.
NVT ERP remains the King of anti-executables...
You guys are right, and some additional thoughts, plus an example of why I am such a fan of ERP. The ability of monitoring DLL's comes with a huge price. First the time to whitelist them. It's horrendous. Then I turn on monitoring the dll's and my system performance is down the drain. Oh there was also a conflict with Sandboxie. ERP used to have that until Andreas fixed it.
But my reason for the love affair. Rundll. All AE's all the way back to PRocess Guard have been plagued on how to deal with that beast. ERP's whitelisting command lines solves the problem, and gives some huge flexibility. For Example I use the Rhapsody Music player. They adopted the new Microsoft installer system, and Rhapsody is started using Rundll to fire it up. Terrible, but I understand there reason and it doesn't work. Well one of my other security apps, Appguard, has a fit with that and I normally would have to turn it off to start Rhapsody. Again terrible. BUT with ERP, I just took Rundll out of Appguards protection, because I know with the ERP protection of exe's like Rundll, I am protected.
So I agree, ERP is indeed King of the anti-executables. Abandoned.....Heck no.
i think Andreas is way too busy in the effort to consolidate SOB ^^
I concur about .dll monitoring.
User has to:
Know what to white-list\black-list
Know which application controls to use so as not to create conflicts
Commit a quite large amount of time and effort at configuring
Be willing to accept a degradation in performance - if it happens
The time and effort is the worst - it's huge.
... and some other stuff if you look at the changelogs of their recently updated software (13th/14th Jan) on their website.
Hope you to release a new version with Windows 10 supported.
I have it running on a win 10 image here also
same here too, run smoothly on Win10.
Yes I agree, whitelisting of DLL files goes too far. I remember when HIPS like EQSecure and Pro Security added this option, it was ridiculous. And besides, not even a Windows expert would know if DLL files are malicious or not, so it hardly makes any sense.