MRG Effitas Online Banking Browser Security Certification for Q1 2017

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Triple Helix, May 19, 2017.

  1. guest

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    yes sure...
    learn to read yourself instead of mocking people because they are not native speaker of your language;you are just making a fool of yourself. bye.
     
  2. guest

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    LoL, learn to read honestly, what the hell has to do a review with a magazine or lab tests?
    Home made test means test done by companies to take the decision, PoCs. Since you don't get demos for enterprise products unless you are in a company. But I guess a professional like you already know that, right?
    What is fun is that you end up talking about tests instead going to the point of the discussion, but since you don't even know what to say or how to make some sense of your staments it's normal.

    But the true is that the perception of ms security products is realy bad for many reasons and this is why it has 0 penetration in the enterprises, at least in Europe
     
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    That is not true and you know it. My employer (in Europe) for instance have 32.000 clients with WD. I know a lot of more companies using WD, in fact most of the companies use WD with Windows 7. And not only because of the protection it provides, but also that it just works and does not break functionality in critical environments.
     
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    Are you sure they use WD and not MSE on Windows 7?
    IME MSE can cause problems in company environment. Also most SMBs I deal with, have some kind of 3rd party solution installed instead of OS built-in.
     
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    Remember in what thread we are. And i was talking about test labs from the start. Rewind in the discussion. post n°22

    indeed i know clearly that , since you can't trust other sources than yourself to select an appliance. each environment is unique.

    Your perception maybe, i am from Europe, and many admins still favor MS because it provide powerful security tools/platform that doesn't requires the installation of buggy and unstable 3rd party products.

    Exact, the ultimate goal in enterprise is to maintain stability of the systems at all costs. Reason why many (already) shifted to Win10, stable and very secure out-of-the-box.

    A typo somewhere, but we get his point anyway.
    yes but we must be careful of what we call "corporate environment", some SMBs (the small ones) are not much different from Home Users in term of deployment. most have good network admins but limited (or lacking) in security knowledge and skills, i saw examples that would make any member here facepalming...
     
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    Yes true. I was just referring to "most of the companies use WD with Windows 7". I have different experience - most of them (more than 50%) don't use Windows built in AM solution but 3rd party instead.
     
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    I know in what thread we are, so what? It doesn't change anything I have wrote. Or I can't talk about any other type of test? Lol

    So MS security products have never causes any issues? You are quite far from reality. I guess teir operative system is perfect as well

    Just tell me how many companies in the stock market of their respective countries in Europe are using MS AV or their APT product? Basically no one, they must be stupid then.
    Because we are talking about the ms security products that makes them win money not what comes by default in the OS, because then everything you have said doesn't make any sense.
    I see you are taking now about MS platform... Lol
    Can we change the subject again? Please :D
    As I said you are far from reality now you are going to talk about all the security that comes by default with server 2016 and win 10 that is not quite extended in companies and half of the world is still running on 2003 and XP
     
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    i know what you meant, and it is true that SMBs (especially the small ones) are very not different than home users networks. Most of their admins despite being good in networking are ignorant of best practices and safe habits.

    you can, but what the point? we talk about test labs not internal tests of companies. i talked about MS doesn't care of test labs, you think they care a lot , good for you. personally i don't care of MS, not my company. i just gave my opinion and others supported it because they have experience on corporate deployment; however i'm not sure you have any.
    So i won't go further with you.
     
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    OK, but using 3rd party AV instead of OS built in is not a sign of ignoring best practices nor safe habits. So I don't see how you comment is related to which AV is being used in SMBs.
     
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    With companie's workstations, when you use built-in tools, there is no real need of 3rd party AVs. (Assuming that they use Pro/Enterprise versions.)
    I saw employee's workstations ran as admin account in non-updated pirated OS with inefficient or bloated AVs...while all built-in tools are disabled...
     
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    At the end of day all that mater is whether user was compromised or not. So for SMBs installing an AV and telling users not to open mail and attachments from unknown sources is usually all that is done regarding security. And maybe backup.
    Admins don't have time to configure all built in OS features, creating whitelists...
     
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    indeed, it was the default behavior (pre -win8/10), with win10 some admins (and especially the accountant department) is relieved , they save time and money :D
    This is normally their jobs, unfortunately, their time is wasted by some stupid behavior from employees/CEOs ...one reason i stopped being sysadmins.
     
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    Either get back to talking about the thread subject ''MRG Effitas Online Banking Browser Security Certification for Q1 2017'' instead of having a go at each other, or the thread will be closed.
     
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    Have I read this correctly, that Webroot failed some tests? If so, have they fixed these gaps in their program?
     
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    Yes, that is correct. They fixed their client so it passed the second test.
     
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    Sorry the Client wasn't touched it was just some adjustments on the Cloud side. There was no need for a Client update as the version stayed the same at v9.0.15.40 during both tests.
     
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