Mozilla resists US gov't request to nuke "MafiaaFire" add-on

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  1. Warlockz

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    Story Here
     
  2. J_L

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    Good news, if we always followed government orders then there would be no democracy.
     
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    It's a request, not an order. Unless the DHS has the legal muscle to order Mozilla to take the add-on down, there's nothing to "resist", actually.
     
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    I live outside of the Continental USA, so this shouldn't affect me. The US Homeland Security must have given this some thought though. Just because the king of the bogeymen is definitely deceased doesn't mean that there aren't still threats to national security.
     
  5. vasa1

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    Me too. I also feel that Mozilla should comply with this request.
     
  6. firzen771

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    i dont, the addon simply lets u find the new address to sites that have been taken down by the government (eg. pirate sites, torrents, etc. for the most part) this is simply more corporate influence on the government that wer all used to from the US these days.
     
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    Interesting. If this is to do with pirates, cracks & torrenting, what has it actually got to do with Homeland Security?
     
  8. Frankfree

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    We are in deep **** with all those Government request. Internet is very unsafe these days
     
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    and thats the problem; it doesnt have anything to do with "homeland security".
     
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    Now, that is worrying. Of course, I suppose the government's argument is that it is trying to remove potential terrorist recruiting sites or something similar.
     
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    they always do have an excuse, but what is really being targeted are pirate/copyright infringing sites, it can be seen all over the internet, torrent sites are being taken down left and right. I wouldnt rely on the US government to be honest, its simply become a vehicle for corporations to use in achieving their own agendas.
     
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    NO governments are honest!
     
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    And, given the state of public awareness and activism, the US government is probably more honest than others.
     
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    I honestly don't know. My government, supposedly the cradle of democracy, tells enough porkies. Well, if not outright pork pies; half-truths & disinformation. ;)
     
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    From the article:
    Okay, I'll admit it......I'm confused. Why in the hell is the DHS concerned with copyright and trademark infringement?

    According to the DHS web site their responsibilities are:

    *Prevent Terrorism and Enhance Security
    *Secure and Manage our Borders
    *Enforce and Administer our Immigration Laws
    *Safeguard and Secure Cyberspace
    *Ensure Resilience to Disasters
    *Mature and Strengthen the Department of Homeland Security


    The only responsibility that even comes close to the issue at hand is 'safeguarding and securing cyberspace'.....BUT, in that regard, the Department states that it works to:

    *analyze and reduce cyber threats and vulnerabilities;
    *distribute threat warnings; and
    *coordinate the response to cyber incidents to ensure that our computers, networks, and cyber systems remain safe.

    I'll be damned if I can figure out how infringement of intellectual property pertains to any of the above. It appears as if they might be in the process of expanding their "responsibilities".
     
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    I don't know whether this is all paranoia or something of genuine concern. I just hope it doesn't give MI5 ideas!
     
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    I can see both sides. MafiaaFire sounds like a benign add-on that has the potential for abuse by outlaws. If I were Mozilla I wouldn't remove it either unless forced to by a legal ruling. I can understand the DHS's concern, but the US is still a country ruled by law not the elite. At least it's supposed to be, really it's ruled by money.
     
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    As is the rest of the world, regardless of what various (often twisted) ideologies claim.
     
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    just because we are paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there trying to get us. Never heard of mafiaafire until the government brought it up.
     
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    Also available for Chrome according to their page.

    And ... straight from the horse's mouth:

    "Well, in one word: fairness – and balance of power.
    A little while back the scumbag anti-piracy organizations like the RIAA and MPAA (Also known as the Music and Film Industry Association of America – MAFIAA) ran to the American government whining like they usually do and got ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) involved with taking down websites – local AND foreign websites."
     
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    Unfortunately, that can turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    I'm beginning to see this from Mozilla's point of view now. This almost certainly is not to do with the security of the United States but a corporate attempt to clamp down on torrenting sites & the like. I just hope this doesn't give my government ideas. I really can't see MI5 doing anything like this but I am not so sure about organisations like SOCA.
     
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    Is there any way to download this and save it to
    your hard drive "just in case it becomes unavailable"

    I have look for a direct download but all I have been able to find
    is to do the install

    Thanks
     
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    I can't. For the DHS to be concerned with copyright and trademark infringement, it would have to be one of their areas of responsibility and, officially at least, it's not.
     
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