Mozilla proud that Firefox made everyone's browsers better

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  1. Hungry Man

    Hungry Man Registered Member

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    Mozilla proud that Firefox made everyone's browsers better

    http://www.techradar.com/news/inter...ones-browsers-better-1079906?src=rss&attr=all

     
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    Firefox FTW! No browser even comes close! Best interface, best addons, best security! :)
     
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    Mozilla should be proud of Firefox. I have always believed that it is the overall best browser. Although it's had its odd periods for me, when I have used other browsers. It just goes to show how good the original Mozilla Suite (now developed as SeaMonkey) really was.

    IMHO Mozilla have been far too concerned about the success of Chrome & slavishly imitating as much as they could of it. The every 27 second upgrade cycles are a mistake as well & I'm surprised most of the extension writers have kept pace.

    But we should all be grateful of how Firefox changed browsers forever. No one should have to be stuck with Internet Explorer.
     
  4. funkydude

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    I'm sure they are, but as much as they'd love to believe they helped, Google were obviously unsatisfied with it to go and make their own instead of contributing to Fx, and it was probably Chrome gobbling up market share so quickly that finally made the MS slouch get up of it's chair, rather than Firefox. I don't recall Microsoft ever sending Google any cakes :p

    Hmm, what to say to this other than "no".
     
  5. Hungry Man

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    I think Firefox probably had a larger effect on IE than Chrome. IE8 came out before Chrome and was a huge improvement over 6, which is pretty much the browser that everyone could agree was crap.

    I think that currently Chrome is the browser to beat though just going by market share trends but Firefox definitely had its impact.

    I agree with that though lol
     
  6. funkydude

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    I guess. I don't have much experience with IE's 6-8, in my mind they were all pretty terrible in comparison to Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox.
     
  7. Hungry Man

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    I wouldn't use it it's just that it was a big improvement.
     
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    I don't know if it was Google's 'unsatisfaction' that lead to them developing their own browser. By the same logic, any Maserati sports car could be seen as an attempt to compensate for the unsatisfactory performance of a Ferrari sports car. The argument isn't cogent.

    I should imagine that Chrome was also huge contributing factor, but it was Fx that set the standard.
     
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    What surprises me if the number of people who like Chrome. IMO it's worse than IE, and Mozilla's determination to copy them is a huge puzzler.

    They did make a good contribution though, for awhile.
     
  10. funkydude

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    To each their own I guess...

    The only thing I dislike about Chrome is the fast updates is now biting them. They are scrambling to make their releases meaningful and feature creep is abundant, nearly as bad as Opera.
     
  11. dw426

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    I'll make it simple for you..business. I don't like Chrome being incorporated into other browsers either, but I understand it is nothing more than business. Chrome was, at the time of IE 9 being worked on, the hot new thing, and it is still perched at the top. When you're at the top, your competition will always try to emulate you to an extent. It's nothing more than telling your users and potential users "Hey, we have this too!".
     
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    I have to agree, though Chrome stagnated for a while, they're always trying to stick their newest ideas into the browser, even when it might not be ready yet. I once called Chrome the laboratory of Google, I think that is still the case.
     
  13. Noob

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    Haven't used Firefox for a few years already (Around 4 years), been using Chrome since it launched and IE9 is pretty good also. :D
     
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    Mozilla certainly seems to be getting too big for their breeches of late.

    As I understand it, it was Opera, not Mozilla, who first proposed HTML 5. Mozilla pushed it, but let's not forget who really should get the credit.

    We have the United States vs. Microsoft in 1998 to thank more than anything for open web standards. It was the Court's ruling that Microsoft had violated antitrust laws that really opened the web.

    Mozilla's Gecko layout engine was developed by Netscape. Firefox was really just the next evolution of Netscape Navigator.

    So while Mozilla deserves some credit for carrying the torch, they didn't light it, and I don't believe they deserve nearly as much credit as they themselves obviosly think they do.
     
  15. Hungry Man

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    It was Opera and Mozilla that brought HTML5 and pushed it.

    Regardless of lawsuit it was Mozilla that killed IE's market share.
     
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    Honestly, it seems more like that they are feeling a little insecure of late.

    I'm not so sure about that. Admittedly Fx was a stand-alone development of the Mozilla Suite, but I thought that the Mozilla Corporation were there almost at the start.

    Development of the layout engine now known as Gecko began at Netscape in 1997, following the company's purchase of DigitalStyle. The existing Netscape rendering engine, originally written for Netscape Navigator 1.0 and upgraded through the years, was widely considered to be inferior to the one used in Microsoft Internet Explorer. It was slow, did not comply well with W3C standards, had limited support for dynamic HTML and lacked features such as incremental reflow (when the layout engine rearranges elements on the screen as new data is downloaded and added to the page). The new layout engine was developed in parallel with the old, with the intention being to integrate it into Netscape Communicator when it was mature and stable. At least one more major revision of Netscape was expected to be released with the old layout engine before the switch.

    After the launch of the Mozilla project in early 1998, the new layout engine code was released under an open-source license. Originally unveiled as Raptor, the name had to be changed to NGLayout (next generation layout) due to trademark problems. Netscape later rebranded NGLayout as Gecko. While Mozilla Organization (the forerunner of the Mozilla Foundation) initially continued to use the NGLayout name (Gecko was a Netscape trademark),[6] eventually the Gecko branding won out. ~ Wikipedia


    It's a hell of a torch though!
     
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