Mozilla is planning to collect domain-level browsing history on an opt-out basis

Discussion in 'privacy problems' started by mirimir, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. zapjb

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    You know me better. I don't believe any authorities claims about privacy. Whether they're saying: we're making you safer, it anonymous data, you can opt out, it doesn't start till....

    It's all BS.
     
  2. RockLobster

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    Right.
     
  3. Brummelchen

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    if you chose this way - dont complain. or go chromium. chromium is open source until google changes its code to closed source with all disadvantages.
     
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    Just sickening when they get to big. Everything "goo" related i stay away.
    Use every telemetry option available for ms. **** all!
     
  5. zapjb

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    There is not 1 big company who has the ability to invade privacy that is not doing it. We just all have our favorites that we call out.
     
  6. J_L

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    Does this apply to Private Browsing mode as well?...
     
  7. Reality

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    Right.
    They've got to keep that cat and mouse game up at all costs.
    RAPPOR (Randomized Aggregatable Privacy-Preserving Ordinal Response) and differential privacy?
    I have to admit it's a long time since I've heard such a nauseous mouthful o_O :gack:

    There's some devious use of words in that piece too.
    So now I'm supposed to feel guilty of robbery for valuing privacy friendly methods huh? The excuse "needing to improve" things is of course, rubbish.
    Any "discussion" is just smoke and mirrors. What they're really doing is easing you into what they fully intended to do right from the start. More gradualism at work here.
    So by feigning concern for peoples privacy, it's bedfellow google to the rescue!!! lol what a joke. From the fry pan into the fire I'd say. Amazing how people buy into a little sweet talk.
    Good point, so why don't they set up test websites? If they can do that, yet would rather saddle folks with a default opt-out then there's an agenda. Thanks for confirming all the more reason not to trust them. As for laced drinking water anything is likely these days. There's some extremely evil people out there.
    So much truth in that. I don't play favorites but there's only 24hrs in a day.

    Anyone with half a brain can figure out those who harvest usage data by default are taking advantage of unsuspecting internet users - and Mozilla at the very least, by their own words and actions, will hope it remains that way - otherwise why would they change from opt-in to opt-out? Blaming the average user when such goings on is instigated without them being aware, is unfair. Like others of their ilk, Mozilla is hardly going to advertise their privacy invasions from the rooftops.
     
  8. TheWindBringeth

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    Aaahhh, the good ol' days. When you had a chance of spotting the pref switcheroo and could use the new one. Now they cripple APIs and carve out exceptions for their pages/domains. From several days ago, a proposal to make hard coded exceptions to fingerprint resistance:

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1333933#c37
     
  9. KeyPer4Life

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    Firefox was my default browser for many years. This only reinforces my decision to ditch Mozilla Firefox
    several years ago.

    I remember when Adblock Plus changed to allow "acceptable ads" and was enabled by default so
    users had to choose opt-out if they wanted to disable this feature.
     
  10. Rasheed187

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    This also lowers my trust in Mozilla. What a bunch of idiots, the only way they could fight Chrome, is by profiling FF as a privacy and security focused browser, without any tracking. But instead they come with this kind of nonsense. And to make things worse, soon Chrome will even implement an ad-blocker, which will make it even more popular.
     
  11. Krusty

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    Mozilla ponders making telemetry opt-out, 'cos hardly anyone opted in

     
  12. mirimir

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    Well, ummm, how can one collect data without collecting data?
     
  13. RockLobster

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    If they really just wanted telemetry to learn how well Firefox performs all they need is a sample of their users to agree to be guinea pigs. They could offer an incentive of some kind to encourage people to sign up to that. There is no such product testing scenario that requires data about EVERY users activity. Its BS.
    IMO this is all about data mining.
     
  14. Reality

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    Lucid dream posted sometime ago about v27, so I'm still on that but I am tired of the track mozilla's taking. Hardcoding stuff that used to be optional is definitely pushing it. I tried a couple of later portables and my. Oh. my. - the attempted call outs on install gave me the jitters.
    The trouble with "acceptable ads" is acceptable according to who? at best it is subjective. Besides that no ads are acceptable to me. If I ever clicked on one it'd be by accident. If I did that the end would be worse for them than the start. They simply don't work on me becasue I can't stand them.
     
  15. KeyPer4Life

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    Didn't know you were still using Firefox. Are you still running SeaMonkey? The latest version is 2.48 released
    back in July. Haven't tried it yet. Hard to find a newer version of a browser that isn't bloated.
     
  16. Circuit

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    Nicely said.
     
  17. Reality

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    You might remember back in my thread things kind of got put on hold. I had to divert from my "project" to get another computer up and running. Then I had to do it a second time. (Clean OS installs and hardware changes, none of which I'd done before) That was a learning process that took a LOT of time so it was just easier to use FF as I was more familiar with it. What are you using for your main browser? I've had Seamonkey Portable 2.40 for a while but other than for a few tests I haven't used it much.
     
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    I'm still using Pale Moon although I've dabbled with SeaMonkey 2.46. It currently however is not installed.
     
  20. Reality

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    How did you find 2.46, and did it try and phone home during install?
     
  21. deBoetie

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    Could any kind knowledgeable person give a summary of the various FF forks, and how they're going to react to current FF developments? I'm finding it hard to know which way to go if abandoning FF, or having a viable alternative.
     
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    Yes, I agree, big time BS.

    Yes, you've hit the nail on the head.
     
  23. Daveski17

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    Well, I'm neither kind or knowledgeable, but I think Pale Moon is the most likely contender.

    http://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml
     
  24. KeyPer4Life

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    PM me and I'll try to give you some info. Don't want to get to much off main topic.
     
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