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Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Hadron, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Hadron

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    You're welcome, Hadron.
     
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    Mozilla improves the reliability of Firefox's Sync service
    September 19, 2020
    https://www.ghacks.net/2020/09/19/mozilla-improves-the-reliability-of-firefoxs-sync-service/
     
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    Firefox 84 will be the last version with NPAPI plugin support
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    https://www.ghacks.net/2020/11/16/firefox-84-will-be-the-last-version-with-npapi-plugin-support/
     
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    Thanks Martin.
     
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    Kinda tired of all these architectural changes that break things. Especially plugins.
     
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    Mozilla is working on a Firefox design refresh
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    https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/02/mozilla-is-working-on-a-firefox-design-refresh/
     
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    They should take a look at Vivaldi when it comes to design. But I don't see myself switching to Firefox again, unless ad-blocking doesn't work correctly anymore in Chromium based browsers. But I believe Vivaldi will find a way to keep blocking most ads, perhaps even out of the box.
     
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    I mentioned it in post 2977406 (link to article called Firefox continues cracking down on tracking with cache partitioning). It is pretty important change and IIUC will make Multi-Account Containers extension privacy protection more robust.
     
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    OK cool, I wish Vivaldi would also add more of these features, similar to Brave and Firefox.
     
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    BTW, I have been reading about Mozilla's plans to add Site Isolation to Firefox and it's cool and all, but I wonder if RAM usage will go thru the roof. Has anyone already checked it out? It really bugs me that Chromium based browsers like Vivaldi use so much RAM. With 50 tabs open Vivaldi may use over 4GB RAM, even without Site Isolation.

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...g-out-site-isolation-to-all-firefox-channels/
    https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/05/introducing-firefox-new-site-isolation-security-architecture/
     
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    May 19 and May 20, there was a series of posts regarding Firefox Site Isolation/ Fission in the "New Firefox Browser Version Released" thread, in which some users shared their experiences. I don't think I read anything about RAM usage, though.
     
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    I saved 8GB of ram permanently by removing a simm and putting it in a drawer.:D

    RAM is there to be used, if you don't use it and waste time 'recovering' it, you might as well throw it in the drawer. As long as Firefox does its job and doesn't cause errors, I will not worry about how much RAM it uses - it'll take care of releasing it when it doesn't need it any more.
     
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    OK cool. I wish browser developers would focus more on RAM usage problems because let's face it, most PC's still have 8GB RAM, which is hardly enough especially because Win 10/11 use more RAM out of the box.

    Yes, it's there to be used, but it's not so much fun if you constantly need to monitor RAM usage. I often keep Vivaldi in memory and things get tricky if I want to start-up another app or videogame. I could really use 12 to 16GB. On Win 8 I didn't really notice this problem since it used about 2GB less of RAM when compared to Win 10.
     
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    "...need to monitor RAM usage"?

    Why? Are you getting a lot of out of memory errors? If not, don't obsess over it. Let windows swap it in and out as needed. Why run 2 browsers at the same time anyway?
    Firefox - use the about:config settings to unload on low memory. Change the memory cache size if you must . Then don't be surprised if it runs slower. Win10/11 have better memory management that win 8, that's why it uses more. If you ain't using your memory, it's useless.
     
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    Mozilla improved tab unloading
    https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/93.0/releasenotes/

    but for this machine - 4gig, 2gig used from win10 and firefox, chromium eats another 700/800meg with 3 pages o_O still 1.2gig free :)

    firefox is not able to show used memory in total, only for its PID and other tasks, ressource manager (windows) show me around 1.1/1.2 gig in total, that is far away from history and lowest memory consumption. but honestly firefox has best tab memory management while chromium (and of those) explode with 100 tabs.
     
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    Didn't I already explain it clearly?

    I often open about 50 tabs in Vivaldi, which makes it use about 4GB. Win 10 will use about 2 to 3 GB out of the box, because of Windows Defender and the ridiculous amount of svchost.exe services that run in the background, which I call bad design. So now I want to load some other app or videogame with about 1GB left, it's probably not going to end well.

    So I think I will probably try to update my laptop to 12GB which is the maximum that it supports. But if Vivaldi didn't use this much RAM, it would have saved me the money, Chromium is crap! And looks like Firefox is stepping in the same direction. There needs to be a balance between resource usage and browser security in my view.
     
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    Windows in S-Mode. Firefox itself get updates as usual, can be used as usual. nevertheless the hurdle to make it standard browser is very high, fu ms.
     
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    Mozilla is shutting down its Ideas platform and creating Mozilla Connect instead
    February 24, 2022
     
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    "Remember Ideas@Mozilla?" Not really.

    I like the idea though. Feedback to Mozilla is not all that great. Guess it's (Mozilla Connect) not ready yet. No official announcement for Mozilla yet (at least I could not find one).
     
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