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Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Hadron, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Rasheed187

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  2. Mrkvonic

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    Firefox 70 review - the inversion point?

    Optimism? In my heart? No way! Here's a cautiously happy review of Firefox 70 desktop and mobile versions, including look and feel, privacy, security, development tools, consideration for usage, the future, and more. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/firefox-70.html


    Cheers,
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  4. Mrkvonic

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    Why you SHOULD use Firefox

    Here's an important article explaining why Firefox should be your primary browser on the desktop and mobile, revolving around concepts like privacy, security, adblocking, customization, the future of the Web, and more. Do read please.

    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/firefox-why-you-should-use.html


    Cheers,
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  5. Minimalist

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    Good article and I agree with most of your reasons. Thnx for share :thumb:
     
  6. Trooper

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    I want to use and like it but I just can't. It is noticeably slower (for me) than Chrome unfortunately.
     
  7. Sampei Nihira

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    If you do this test:

    https://www.howsmyssl.com/

    with your browser you may have the "Session Ticket Support" to improvable parameter.
    Also Ghacks-user.js:

    https://github.com/ghacksuserjs/ghacks-user.js/blob/master/user.js

    in section 1200 row 671 recommends:

    "security.ssl.disable_session_identifiers" set to true.

    if you set it to false the "Session Ticket Support" test will be good.
    But that may not be a good thing.
    Did you set it to false or true in your browsers?
     
  8. Rasheed187

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    I'm sorry but I prefer Vivaldi, it's superior to Firefox in many ways. The only problem is that it's based on Chromium, so someday I hope I can make the switch back to Firefox. But Firefox has got too many issues for me personally, mostly related to features.
     
  9. SAustn2

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    By any chance do you happen to use Microsofts Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit?

    Firefox's startup and webpage rendering slowed down noticeably for me and after remembering reading one of Dedoimedo's articles about FF slowdown and EMET I disabled, sehop, eaf, eaf+ and mandatory address space layout randomization not sure which one helped but it's back to being fast again. It was previously fast with all mitigations enabled except for attack surface reduction which is still currently not enabled.
     
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    I wish I could use only Firefox (it is my default browser) but performance of online flash games is so much better in chrome/chromium with pepperflash. Firefox either plays slow or skips frames whereas Chrome/Chromium has a lot smoother game play. But for just web-browsing I haven't found anything better than Firefox with Noscript and Ublock to fall back on In case I need to allow javascript.
     
  11. Trooper

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    I do not.
     
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    I remember that, I think it was EAF or EAF+, especially when xul.dll is added.
     
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    Nice change, thanks for posting. I am making a note of this preference so I ll remember it when Firefox 74 comes out. Getting rid of this tab detaching annoyance is going to be nice.

    Bo
     
  16. wat0114

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    What is so annoying about it? i didn't even know it existed, let lone it's done nothing to annoy me.
     
  17. bo elam

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    Hi Wat. The guy in the article describes it perfectly. Sometimes, when I want to move the tab thats in the extreme right (to get it out of the way) of the tab bar to the extreme left, instead of moving it to where I want it, it moves/opens instead in a new window. It happens all the time, and is annoying because you have to be very careful for that not to happen and even being careful, it happens very often.

    Bo
     
  18. Hadron

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    Hi Wat.

    People who use lots of tabs find some tabs accidentally or unintentionally jumping out of the current window into a new window.
    I've seen tabs jump into new windows without even touching the offending tabs.
     
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    And you open many tabs. I never have many tabs open at the same time. I usually open at most 3 or 4 at the same time. And even with this few tabs open, is a problem (to me). So, disabling this "feature" is gonna make things more comfortable for me.

    Bo
     
  20. wat0114

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    Oh okay. It's just kind of funny I didn't know it existed, although I don't usually have more than a 1/2 dozen tabs open at most, and then I rarely ever move them, so I guess that explains it :) I just played around with it a bit and can see where it could cause those problems you guys mention.
     
  21. Hadron

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    There are add-ons to disable tab detaching, but I don't see why we should have to use an add-on to disable a dodgy Mozilla implementation.

    The add-ons are:
    • Disable Tab Detach
    • Disable Tab Detach 2
    They bother work, but Disable Tab Detach 2 also has a toolbar button to turn it off and on.
     
  22. bo elam

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    It usually happens to me with the Downloads tab. I open my Downloads as a tab, and usually keep this tab open when I am downloading something. A workaround is to Pin it instead of moving it. But by nature, without thinking about it or being conscious about it, I move it to the side instead of pinning it. :)

    Bo
     
  23. bo elam

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    Thanks, but using an addon would annoy me more than tabs detaching. I only use one extension, and do all I can not to add any.

    Bo
     
  24. Victek

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    I occasionally detach tabs unintentionally, so I appreciate this. We will see if FF 74 fixes the issue.
     
  25. wat0114

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    If using using only one extension works for you, then that's great, and all that really matters. From my POV, it's important to recognize "quality of extensions" so on that note, I use more than one, because I believe all four of the extensions I use are highly reputable, effective and trustworthy.

    1. uBlockO
    2. Privacy badger
    3. NoScript
    4. Lastpass
    There is also a kernel-based enforcement I'm using in Linux that restricts these extensions to do only exactly what they're supposed to do, and nothing else, so there is a certain peace of mind in that too.
     
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