Microsoft to Release Windows Blue, the First Free Windows Ever – Rumors

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  1. NormanF

    NormanF Registered Member

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    Why bother? If you want classic interface - downgrade to Windows 7. It'll be supported at least through 2014.
     
  2. roger_m

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    Because Windows 8 runs faster, and if you using software to bring back the Start Menu why would you even want to downgrade?
     
  3. NormanF

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    Because I'm looking for a consistent user interface on the desktop. I don't see the point of using two separate desktops like Windows 8 does! I wish they had chosen one and made everything look and work consistent. Since Microsoft didn't do that, I didn't see a compelling reason to upgrade from Windows 7 - and I like the classic desktop just fine and so do a lot of people. Having Windows run faster is not my criterion for upgrading and I already run the classic start menu on the Windows 7 desktop.
     
  4. roger_m

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    I can understand that. But it seems pointless to downgrade to Windows 7 on a computer which comes with Windows 8 installed.
     
  5. Kerodo

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    Not at all.. you have to realize that a lot of people just don't want anything to do with 8, even after giving it a fair try for a while...
     
  6. Bodhitree

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    Windows 8 by ALL accounts is a failure.

    This WAS their contingency plan.. Also, the widespread movement to Linux based systems is another reason.. Gabe Newell is moving steam over to Linux, they already launched it with dozens of games last week after a long beta. Gabe wants to move games to Linux, and put windows out of the gaming business. Which is a GREAT move.. I'd be the first to go linux full time if they do this. Gabe found out high end games actually play 50-100% better on Linux (FPS, etc), even unoptimized!

    Microsoft is quite worried right now.
     
  7. NormanF

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    You have downgrade rights on a new computer. If not, you can always buy a Windows 7 disk and install it over Windows 8. I consider Windows 7 a perfectly usable system. I have no intention of having Redmond force me to upgrade to a Windows I neither need nor want.
     
  8. NormanF

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    Metro wasn't well thought out and it was a change made to establish Microsoft's presence in the tablet/smartphone market. In the process, they forgot that 90% of Windows users are PC desktop users and this change so to speak, left them out in the cold. In my opinion, if it ain't broke don't fix it. I would have been happy with improvements to the classic Windows 7 desktop but as I don't have a tablet/smartphone, I don't see what benefits the Metro interface offers for me on my PC desktop.
     
  9. roger_m

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    I'm well aware of that, but it seems like a lot of troube to go to when you can install one program and get the Start Menu back.

    They are not forcing you to upgrade. Sure, if you buy a new PC, more than likely it will come with Windows 8 installed. While I do actually like Windows 8 - this is not an issue for me, as I don't think I will ever buy a new PC anyway.
     
  10. Bodhitree

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    For reference;

    http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/


    and;

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...abe-newell-valve-hedging-with-steam-on-linux/
    When Gabe Newell, who tends to have a pretty good sense of the “PC space” says Windows 8 is a catastrophe and that his company is hedging with Linux, it’s probably a good idea to listen close.

    Of course, whether or not this turns out to be the case, having a bunch of Steam games available on Ubuntu will make Linux much more appealing to many users.
     
  11. Kerodo

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    It's not just about the start menu, it's more about the entire Metro nonsense not belonging on a non-touch desktop or laptop pc. That and then some..
     
  12. elapsed

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    Oh look what this thread has turned into, what a surprise.

    Gabe Newel wants Windows 8 to be a failure because the Windows 8 store is a direct competitor to the Steam Store. Windows 8 already accounts for almost 10% of all Steam users.

    Also, claiming that games on Linux run better un-optimized than on Windows is complete nonsense. The only tests done so far were against Direct X 9 games. 1) These games are already years old and 2) Direct X 9 was introduced over 11 years ago, we're on 11.1 now. Comparing ancient DX9 vs recent OpenGL is just another way that Gabe pushes his agenda. Thankfully his users couldn't care what he thinks as is seen by the Windows 8 growth on Steam.
     
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    That is forcing me to upgrade. I would like to buy new PC with windows 7 next year, optimized for non touch screen desktop with a start menu and classic windows 98/2000 theme.
     
  14. harsha_mic

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    I don't see W8 as a failure at all.
    Yes it is very radical departure from its previous OS in terms of UI. This would be pain point for the people who show least to none interest in learning it.

    To me, (and many of my folks) are quite satisfied with W8. This is very slick compared to W7 and from a security stand point this OS should be considered as positive step towards implementing better security out of the box.

    Blue is the next iteration which further streamlines the OS.

    Thanks,
    Harsha.
     
  15. PoetWarrior

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    It will be interesting to see exactly what changes are made to the kernel. :D
     
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    One reason is that they have mucked up the reading and writing to DVDs.
    I downgraded for this reason alone among many others.
     
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    I believe business-class computers still ship with Windows 7 (or have the option for it).

    And don't forget you can always just build your own desktop :D
     
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    Im buying my new laptop next year. I doubt that windows 7 will be still offered.
     
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    If you are really so against Windows 8, you can either buy Windows 7 or or switch to a non-Windows OS (e.g. Linux).

    However the fact that computer manufacturers faze out the older operating system is not a new concept. When Vista was released, there were people still wanting computers with XP and when XP was released there were people wanting 2000/98, etc.
     
  20. jo3blac1

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    Yeah Im going to switch to kubuntu most likely next year. As long as I can get the trackpoint software acceleration to work. It might not be permanent but for sure I am going to try hard to switch. The way Microsoft is now pushing Metro UI down my throat and the single PC lifetime license for Microsoft Office both have completely turned me off from future windows.
     
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  21. moontan

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    there's always things Windows is useful for.

    running Windows games, multimedia apps like Photoshop or SONAR.

    it does not have to be a either or proposition.
    i'd like to be using Linux exclusively but that's not just possible for me.

    some stuff just won't run on Linux.
    a fast solution is dual-booting.
     
  22. Brian K

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    We are a Win8 family now. Four computers with Win8.

    My main computer is multi-booting Win8, Win7, WinXP, Ubuntu, etc. I much prefer Win8 to the other OS and as I've mentioned before, Metro is my preferred "Start Menu".
     
  23. guest

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    :thumb: I feel the same way. But I will switch a bit later to Linux because there are still many years left having Win7 MS security updates. But if Redmond continues in that wrong direction towards touch-sh!t-OS including useless app(le) stores and if they are not again re-considering the needs of normal desktop system users (don't forcing them to use a wrong GUI concept and giving them back CHOICE!) and also at the same time are pushing subscription based licenses by making normal licenses much less attractive, yes ... I say Windows or better Tiles good-bye forever too, guaranteed. *puppy*

    Linux will be a new adventure and learning all things again .. is maybe a good thing. Getting rid of MS despotism surely is. :p
     
  24. jo3blac1

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    Yeah If I can snatch somewhere a windows 7 license next year then I will do that and then install it on my new laptop. But I doubt I will be willing to pay more than $150 for it.
    I am hoping that by some time next year ubuntu will become popular enough on tablets that lenovo will start including it with some of their thinkpads. We will see maybe with the way things are going we will start seeing people moving into linux market via tablets.
     
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