Microsoft ends Windows 7 support one year from today

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  1. mood

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    Microsoft ends Windows 7 support one year from today
    January 14, 2019
    https://betanews.com/2019/01/14/microsoft-ends-windows-7-support-one-year-from-today/
     
  2. Beyonder

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    Great news! Now if Microsoft has truly decided Windows 10 will be the "Last" OS they ever launch, people with Windows 10 will get updates more or less forever. New security features too!
     
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    I wonder if there will be POSReady trick available to receive updates even after that date.
     
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    Good riddance.
     
  6. Stupendous Man

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    How is this new or different when support for Windows 7 ends?
    End of support for Windows 7 doesn't change anything for Windows 10, I would say.

    Why so mad?
    I think you already knew support for Windows 7 ends next year, didn't you?
    And I think ten years support for an OS is not bad, is it?

    It's a fact that support for Windows 7 will end, next year, but why "good riddance"?
    Was Windows 7 so bad?
    UAC should be on maximum level, and I changed the windows borders to non-transparent Vista-grey, and I guess it needed some additional tweaks (like any OS or distro), but overall I think it was OK.
    When support for Windows 7 ends, and I migrate to Kubuntu, I will say, thanks for the nice time, Windows 7, and thanks for all the fish, Microsoft.
     
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    It was inevitable long ago that Windows 7 support would end so I moved on to Windows 10. When it was released, I bought Windows 7 Ultimate for CDN $200 and it included fully working AppLocker, a really nice feature no longer available to consumers. It's also too bad since 7, MS has deprecated the "send an email" and "display a message" as available Actions in Task Scheduler tasks.
     
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    Indeed. Not to forget, those updates will always be FORCED on the end user with no option to NOT install them.
    And, what if M$ decides to make Win 10 an "Operating System As A Service"...and users start having to pay them every year just to use it?

    If M$ does in fact decide Win 10 will be the last OS it comes out with, it would seem to me they are going to be looking to generate more revenue from somewhere??

    Just a thought...
     
  9. Beyonder

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    Presumably it will push people onto Windows 10, the platform that will presumably never expire in the same way that past versions of Windows has. The more people on the most modern/secure Windows OS, the better the internet is off.
     
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    I doubt they would ever do that. The EU would jump them immediately if they decided to make a product we've "all", in one way or another, paid for with a one time fee.

    You mean like with the Surface, with Office or OneDrive? Crapple went from MacOS being paid to being "free", Google releases Android "free", so I fail to see why Microsoft wouldn't be able to support themselves without making it a service.
     
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    Like old times? People will just crack it.
    MS main revenues is and will always be the Enterprise/Servers versions and
    Office. Home users are peanuts revenues, if not Win10 wouldn't be free.
     
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    Much obliged for the follow-up info, Beyonder!

    I tend to agree that Microsoft should have no trouble supporting itself without having Win 10 a "OS as a Service". I did locate an article at the TechCrunch site (about 4 years old I believe) which seems to comment on this:

    https://techcrunch.com/2015/05/11/w...ervice-instead-of-a-series-of-major-releases/

    For me personally, at my age (and with the particular health issues I have), it's become more difficult for me to understand a lot of things that I once had little trouble with. It's mainly for that reason I'll continue using Win 7 even after support for it ends.

    (For guest): Thanks very much for your follow-up too! I only just saw it after I posted this reply.

    Cheers! :)
     
  13. Floyd 57

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    Why not continue by using Windows 10?

    That is not true, you can easily block it, if you know how. Ofc, the average user won't, and they won't even google it, but you can
     
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    ** M$.
     
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    Thanks for the info, Floyd 57. :)

    I did a brief Google search for how to stop Win 10 automatic updates, and from what I see thus far, the method(s) given are for users with Wi-Fi. The methods will not work for people like me who have a wired connection and do not have Wi-Fi.
     
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    1- Via firewall, block processes linked to Windows Updates and you won't be able to update (svchost.exe, etc...)
    2- There is also tools like the one made by NVT.

    Personally I won't touch Win7 even with a pole. It was for me the suckiest OS ever after Millennium, even XP was better.
    However with patience, research/knowledge and some tools, you can make the safer Win10 feels like Win7.
     
  17. Floyd 57

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    You can use an anti-exe to block C:\Windows\System32\wuauclt.exe from running (NVT ERP is the best one). You can also rename it to wuauclt.backup so windows can't use it, and you can rename it back to wuauclt.exe when you decide to use it again, and download and install updates manually through windows catalog if there's another update you need. Just don't run sfc /scannow or the likes because the file will be restored. Also, you can disable automatic updates, but that won't help with manual ones unless you have a way (there's many) to block wuauclt.exe from running, because windows will install the update(s) anyway when you manually check for updates. Also, you can use a firewall to block the process needed to download the updates, which I think was svchost.exe. Ofc, since this process is also used for many other stuff, you can block just the IPs that it connects to to download the updates, simplewall has (all of?) the IPs included. You can use wushowhide.diagcab (google it) to block certain updates, but this may not work for many reasons. You can also disable the windows update services and/or tasks, but I think windows will reenable them unless you change their permissions, but then how would you know what updates are available if you can't check for updates. You can also trick windows you have a metered connection. And you can trick it that your disk is full, or at least the relevant parts of it. You can also use the pause updates button, but it only works for 35 days, afterwards you might have to reset the timer, you can google that one too
     
  18. Stupendous Man

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    I'm way past that.
    That fact that, August 2015, the Windows 10 setup files were downloaded on Windows 7 systems (1) (2) (3), without any other user authorization than only the default Windows Update settings "Install updates automatically" and "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates", changed my view on Windows and Microsoft, completely.
    It resulted in the promise to myself (4) that with end of support for Windows 7, I would move to Linux.
     
  19. Floyd 57

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    I suppose you don't play games or anything that might require using Windows?
     
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    No gaming. A few programs that are Windows only and that have less appealing Linux equivalents, but not so bad that it stops me from migrating.
     
  21. Beyonder

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    I'm into gaming and I'm really hoping Steam improves their Linux gaming support. They've been making some great progress with that lately and in 2-3 years I think I might finally be able to abandon Windows.
     
  22. zapjb

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    Yeah if Linux gets as good as or better with gaming than Windows. Then watch out Linux consumer "desktop" OS usage will double yearly for the first 3-5 years after.
     
  23. guest

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    Problem with Linux is the lack of drivers, if you are an hardcore gamer using the latest hardware for best FPS, Windows is your only option.

    I remember having to quit Linux Mint because it couldn't handle clone display (pc and TV) with my graphic card...
     
  24. Floyd 57

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    Yep, can't play on 8k 240hz with linux :isay:
     
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    Don't laugh, a decade ago, i knew a pro player at Counter-strike buying the latest hardware and playing with the lowest display settings for max perfs.
     
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