Maybe it is the right time for Prevx.

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by trjam, Nov 15, 2007.

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  1. bellgamin

    bellgamin Registered Member

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    Oi vey, Pete -- I thought they didn't allow forum members to post unless they have at least 12 security programs running full-blast at all times. :cool:

    But seriously folks...
    QUESTION- Does Prevx require annual renewal, or is it a one-off?
     
  2. Hermescomputers

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    Pay...Ya must pay Bellgamin... I know it hurts but you'll survive! :D
    The actual renewal is at a slightly lower premium than the original purchase price...
     
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  3. Perman

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    Hi,

    Renewal for Prevx-- could be a piece of cake; I have two, one was given by a mod of this forum, the other was picked up at giveawayoftheday promotion. If you are lucky enough, you can capture couple at castlecop's annual competition event. Prevx is so popula rnow(IMO) due to its innovative concept and growing faith in its always-in-contact protection mechanism. I was very critical of its approach(along with CyberHawk at the time), now I am a firm believer; the info it collects, if any, will not be more than the data Uncle Sam has compiled up over the years. Your employer may have more of yours than Prevx does. :) Take care.
     
  4. Hermescomputers

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    The report is not about personal data but about Executables and supporting elements.

    You have nothing to fear but fear itself... and a few of the hidden programs already reporting how many times you wiped your nose on your sleeve today:D
     
  5. Perman

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    Hi,
    When it boils down, it is the issue of privacy. Whether is flesh(personal data) or electronic(details of your box). Fears? if any, then do not touch the rod(the mighty computer). Perhaps old day's file cabinet will preserve more privacy than modern day's keyboard stuff. Eh? Take care. Hope Argos and Raptors can win this weekend. Take care.
     
  6. Hermescomputers

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    Aaah... a fellow Canuck! I hope at least one of them bring the tin home!:D
     
  7. trjam

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    I PULLED PREVX! ;) Decided to do this right I needed to reimage both computers to do this right. I have a lot of old crap and registry entries that really could skew my findings and that would not be fair to Prevx or anyone here based on what I find. So my night will be busy. I know, I know, why not buy software that restores in a reboot. I am old schooled and actually like doing a reomage. I always do something different. Have a good weekend folks, I am really impressed how quite and active at the same time Prevx has been in the last 24 hours. It passed the kids test last night. Ran Kasperskys online scan after all the my space crap and all clean. Good product, especially combined with my freebies.
     
  8. EASTER

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    Users have been deliberately left in the dark for as long as Windows is been their choice O/S, vendors know this and although they do work to address certain potential problems, face it, a Boot-To-Restore is much simpler and eons more instant in eliminating those possibilities, and that's if anything can even protrude thru basic front line walls of HIPS/Sandboxes/Virtuals. So scanners of any sort aren't even in the same league because they are constantly searching for matches (blacklist/whitelist) and that consumes additional machine energy even when nothing is discovered, which then becomes lost time better spent making images and/or archives for safety rescue.

    Oh! look how much coverage this scanner can cover they claim, but can those results return 100% accuracy? Boot-To-Restore eliminates those doubts and avoids confusions plus you don't have the added burden of constantly adjusting settings or always waiting to update scanners databases.

    Just the facts.
     
  9. Hermescomputers

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    The best option would be to have the O.S. minted on a chip. Have it static on, and Boot from some type of firmware, CMOS or perhaps protected Flash Memory, and let it run in RAM this way no permanent modifications of any sort could be made. but the configuration could be written to disk for application and personal preferences without modifications to the actual operating system. Other programs could easily be on chips as well. Like in the old video games consoles or run like current programs that run without requirement for registry integration or other types of installation. Just click and run... And it would allow for all applications to be standardized. No more proprietary Microsoft, linux or apple... All working together (I'm dreaming).

    Also you could simply purchase any OS upgrade on a chip and simply remove the obsolete one and plug in the new one... This design would be far more effective from a security perspective, and eliminate the need for the majority of our existing defense requirements... It would create new logistical problems, but a disabled or exploited OS would be a thing of the past.

    Corporate types could standardized on a business model that includes all the required corporate apps and then lock the setup out. Reducing overhead security and support...

    I never clearly understood why the industry continue to insist operating the way it currently is...
     
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  10. 19monty64

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    You mean like Wubio_O
     
  11. Hermescomputers

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    Not exactly. Wubi is modified whenever you update an application. Resulting in possible security problems. Besides it runs from your hd or USB flash which is not protected anyone can modify it...
     
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    After posting, I re-read yours just to get my head rapped around the concept, and the game-console comparison sunk in. The OS is dedicated and any "saves" are written separately but still accessed through the OS. So anything that was needed, say office or design apps would remain separate and accessed only thru the OS, sort of portable plug&play, as you could plug your chip into receptacle to use it...
     
  13. Hermescomputers

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    That's it! :thumb:
     
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    But wouldn't you still have to protect the "saves" from corruption, so when "plugged-in" nothing from the write-accessible could be, um... broadcast for lack of a better wordo_O
     
  15. Hermescomputers

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    99% of viruses, Trojans and other Malware are able run because they are able to hide within the operating system. Think rootkits that cloak and become invisible. This would be impossible. to do since you could not modify the os in any way. You could only customize the loading of programs and those areas can be easily protected. Every virus would become dead on every re boot since all one would require is a simple visual inspection of a text file containing the config. Easy to protect with a simple process management component. It loads and tries to modify that file... you get a bug screen asking you to autorize it.. and so on... not very complicated at all actually. Get hit with a virus... Boot in a protected mode that doesn't load the config file or use an alternate or default configuration. Delete config file or modify its content to prevent virus to load and voila... back to normal.

    This would require every one to standardize their software development to a specific series of instruction sets. However it would open the competition and revitalize the playing field... Right now there is no innovators because Microsoft kills them all in the bud...
     
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    So a checksum would be the only needed, to verify files before opening.
     
  17. Hermescomputers

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    I would see something like the functionality of threat fire or PREVX being integrated in the OS perhaps, but most other systems would be moot. A process management tool simply to keep things under level playing field... That is if you use software from Internet downloads. However if all the software you choose to purchase is is distributed via some type of locked Flash with it's MD5 registered with a monitoring authority for later validation purposes (sort of like with online application certificates) and pre scanned for impropriety it would completely eliminate the need for security because it would practically eliminate all the bad actors out of the market. Simple economics would prohibit them from risking large investments into malware that would be so easily detected. Only the "maker" of the os could be corrupt and perhaps easily spy on us.... But with competition comes options and they could be easily bypassed. Unlike right now.

    This is an idea whose time has come I believe... From a technological perspective there is no reasons why it is not already in place. Besides I would think Military applications already work pretty much this way. A nice indicator of things to come...

    We need creative and intelligent innovators with deep pockets otherwise we are doomed to keep chasing our own tale like dogs spinning around mindlessly and simply keep our head buried deep inside Microsoft's ass and forget what fresh air smells like! :eek:

    Sorry I keep writing then editing... (I'm actually doing 3 things at once right now)...
     
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  18. EASTER

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    The trouble with security conscious geeks like us is that thanks to engenious developers who take the opposite road to malware writers, we quickly catch on to the programs that never were intended to become reality if Behemoth Microsoft had their way, and once news spreads like wildfire on any program that can easily plus more efficiently protect our chosen investments, efforts quickly become afoot to begin to either crush the competition or create a new O/S to make them obsolete ($M mindset policy). Only this time the flood of intelligent minds have overwhelmed $M since Vista didn't get out of the gate in time enough to prevent it. Which spells SATISFACTION with a capital "S" for all users of XP systems.
     
  19. Kerodo

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    I have been on the internet for 12 years now, 5 or 6 on cable, and used IE at least half the time, and never ever have I had a drive-by install, even going to all the typical places where the nasties occur.. I did use Firefox instead of IE6 for a long time, so perhaps that's why, I think IE6 was the one with the heavy reputation for drive-by problems... But either I have just had extra good luck, or the drive-by issue is highly overrated.
     
  20. Long View

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    Heretic - just because you and I and many others have never seen something does not mean that it does not exist. 2302 posts and the faith police haven't picked you up yet - truly amazing :cautious:
     
  21. Hermescomputers

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    Thing is Kerodo, that often people have no idea how they got infected by something... Perhaps an email attachment they click or via some site they visited doing a background install via a script of some sort.

    I find most users I do a security audit have some type of infections often because someone knew how to exploit their specific configuration... The users however had no idea it was there... Also keep in mind that the most serious of infections are designed with stealth in mind.
     
  22. Kerodo

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    Yes, I understand that, and you're right. Many, if not most, users have trouble staying out of trouble.. I consider myself a smart and educated user, so I probably get better results than most with minimal security.
     
  23. Hermescomputers

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    The hilarious thing is I have a client who is disabled. He has no idea about anything related to his computer and he probably spends 5-7 hours a day online browsing mostly porn sites... I have never found exploits on his machine, only the typical virus and adware/spyware everybody gets from time to time... It goes to say you never can tell who/where/when... Perhaps he has a higher power protecting him.. :cautious:
     
  24. trjam

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    this is a good decision. No issues with Prevx.
     
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    did some tests this weekend with Prevx and some know bad places. It caught everything I threw at it, or jailed it. Came back with a Kaspersky online scan and clean. Added Opera, dropped Firefox and I swear I cant fathom and much faster my PC has gotten with Prevx and Opera.
     
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