Malwarebytes claim: IObit is stealing signature databases

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  1. Inspector Clouseau

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    I have to add something to that. (And yes, it's not directly related to the topic but i think i'd like to add that here)

    Somehow 3 weeks ago i came across this crazy product. A wrist watch with basically everything. Phone, TV, Radio, Audio Player, Bluetooth, Organizer, Video Camera, Photo Camera and the whole 9 yard. I thought wow... Reading more on that i discovered it comes with 2 spare batteries (rechargeable) includes a stereo bluetooth headset, USB chargers and so called "World Chargers". Then i saw the price and was like "WTF? That has to be a scam".

    Usually we meet at 6th floor in our company building for smoking. So i told a couple of guys that. Everyone replied "Oh you will be scammed for sure for that price and oh it comes from china they will double charge you as well"

    So i said damn it, let's try it. It wasn't a big risk since it was around 100 bucks (USD) INCLUDING SHIPPING from china.

    I went directly up trying to order it. I was unable to pay directly. They only accept Paypal. That was the moment when i stocked for a short moment. But heck, i couldn't resist. Now i wanna know what happens. Ding! Ordered.

    That was on a Thursday evening. Friday morning someone send me a confirmation that the item has been packed and shipped and is on it's way to USA. No FedEx tracking number at this time....

    Everyone at work "Oh well you know that's nothing new they tell that to all scammed people". Hm..... Let's see

    Over the full weekend until Monday Morning no FedEx Tracking number. HOWEVER.... Someone called me from China! In broken english she was telling me "Lello Sirl yol iltem allives tolday." I checked emails and yes... a tracking number. Clicked on it and it was already in Florida out for delivery.

    Sprinted to work and yes - it arrived. To make it short: I dumped my 32GB 3GS iPhone in favor for the chinese "crap". Believe it or not, it just works as advertised and has a better phone call quality than i ever managed to reach with the iPhone. And it's a damn watch. With loudspeakers and bluetooth. No need to carry something in your pockets and to stand up and pull out the damn phone when someone calls.

    That was basically the best and most enjoyable purchase i've had in the past years. Perfect shipping time (considering shipping was priced at 12 bucks with FedEx!) And top-notch quality of the watch. It even came in a black wooden box.
     
  2. BlueZannetti

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    Which only goes to illustrate that the mindless generalizations and unsupported extrapolations that all too many freely engage in are just that - mindless generalizations and extrapolations.

    There are plenty of charlatans out there. They know no geographic boundaries. They reside everywhere.

    Let's lay off the mindless generalizations and focus on the specific issue at hand moving forward. That is always the most productive course of action.

    Blue
     
  3. Kees1958

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    Well I guess that smoking "in the cloud" at level 6, does create this irresistable urge for more gadgets to reach cloud 7. :blink:
     
  4. Edwin024

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    Nice story!

    I can't say that I am against Chinese products either. The country is arising, with all the same problems as children who grow up. I for one hope that IObit learns from this and grows into a real mature company.

    But the way Malwarebytes works doesn't get my approval either. This shouldn't be fought out in public. Silent diplomacy would have been better, until one of the parties clearly didn't want to coopertate. And that is what I miss in MWB's actions.

    The IObit stuff works great on Win7 by the way.
     
  5. Malkiller

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    I must admit I am really surprised to find that Iobit 360 had items in their data base related to Malwarebyte´s data base .

    In my personal opinion, and after checking in the different forums and the different products, without a shadow of a doubt IObit used malawarebyte´s data base.


    Anyway and regardless about this issue, but to make things worse, now IObits products include a damn toolbar .

    The most surprising thing is that this tool bar isnt even theirs::



    Thats the tool bar and it really belongs to Conduit.ltd. see here



    So in short: How the hell does a security program like Iobit 360 or a optimizer like Advanced include an Adware-Malware?

    Getting better lads


    Grettings to all.
     
  6. Einsturzende

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    Why another name for malware when already created is good enough, less different names and less confusing... also respect for original finder...
    How do we know someone from MBAM crew does not submit incriminated file/s to iobit public submission server?
    lousy job done by Iobit does not imply they are stealing... too much coincidence, yes, but yet iobit misses too much malware which MBAM catch to say iobit stealing or reverse engineering MBAMs base...
     
  7. MikeNash

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    I saw those too on a site and didnt order. Can you PM me the link, please. I'd love a phone watch :)

    What talk time do you get ?
     
  8. Inspector Clouseau

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    If you use the phone in the watch "normal" means around 10-20 phone calls per day it lasts for ridiculous 3 days without charging. Depends of course how long are the calls but i'd guess you get at least 4 to 5 hours talk time in a charge. (Also depends if you use loud speakers on the phone or BT headset)

    Playing music full volume over the watches speakers (really loud and actually quite good) goes for around 4.5 hours. That i can confirm because i used that a couple of times. So over all i'm quite happy with it. Only drawback is writing SMS. Because the screen is too small you have to use (the included!) stylus type. Not a big issue for me because i prefer anyway to call instead of sms.
     
  9. Chubb

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    Excellent solution!! :thumb::thumb::D:D
     
  10. bonedriven

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    IObit is from China? o_O

    Where can I find that information?
     
  11. Durad

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    We hope its gonna last you for a long time :D
     
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    if u wanna hear something REALLY shocking, IObit hosts a porn game sort of site on their server, here is a NON-clickable link for it so plz dont remove this, people need to see how despicable iobit really is for a security company...

    and almost every link on that site sends u to the iobit main site and starts a download prompt... this is just terrible from a security company.

    iobit.com/porn-game
     
  14. ePost

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    I think this is new. That download popup wasn't always there? The porn is also new, I think? I wonder if their site was hacked?
     
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    All over the internet. In several posts and links in this thread. :D
     
  17. Keyboard_Commando

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    Yep, Good spot!

    Seems like this scammer title they've now got is earned.

    Results 1 - 1 of 1 for The Times Review - Advanced WindowsCare v2 Personal "If you want to give your PC a full MoT, try downloading Advanced SystemCare Free from www.iobit.com/ advancedwindowscareper.html , free of charge. This software includes a start-up manager that will advise you which programs it’s safe to stop from running at start-up. It also includes a bevy of powerful tools to stop spyware and performs clever tricks such as slightly reducing the quality of the thumbnail images that appear when you open a folder of digital photos, so that you don’t suffer that irritating delay. ". (0.71 seconds)
    Search Results

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    IObit - Press Room


    ^^ Google search.

    The cheating buggers. Also searched The Times website and not one result.
     
  18. EliteKiller

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    http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article2595059.ece
     
  19. pandlouk

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    PrevxHelp, those reviews are real.
    No need to search. At the icons on the left of the text are the direct links to those reviews.
    Advanced system carefree is very good.
    Iobit smartdefrag and Game Booster are excellent programs.
    Especially game booster is simple fantastic!

    Panagiotis
     
  20. EliteKiller

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    FWIW not all images link to an article.
     
  21. pandlouk

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    Please.. lets take a break.
    They simple used the search engines like google to display iobit at the first pages.

    [noparse]http://www.iobit.com/porn-games.html[/noparse]
    [noparse]http://www.iobit.com/naruto-hentai.html[/noparse]

    A strange way to advertise but nothing malicious in those pages...

    Panagiotis
     
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    its pretty disgusting way of advertising, idc what people think but i dont want a product that gets is business in ways like this, what known company does something like this? do u see any security company do underhanded stuff like this?
     
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  23. pandlouk

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  24. pandlouk

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    Agree but... also I find it a bit funny. I can't imagine the face of those that search for porn and finish in those pages...:D :D :D

    Panagiotis
     
  25. Keyboard_Commando

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    Hmmm ok maybe they didn't fake The Times quote.

    I am blaming Prevx help + Times search for that. :p

    I am going to keep my mouth shut from now on :gack:
     
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