Malware Defender

whar happend to MalWare Defender?or where is xiolin?or http://www.torchsoft.com/ what happen?i dont want to happen or repeat the same story of top notch program disapears like Process Guard remember?

finally i got to see the website after 2 days

 

Hopefully all is well with Xiaolin. Website is working okay.

 

I seem to remember that the license for Malware Defender is lifetime with updates. Does that still apply...I can't tell by looking at the website.

P.S. I am still using SSM...have been for a long time on XP

 

yup still lifetime.

 

WHOSE lifetime? Mine or Malware Defender's?

NOTE: Torchsoft's "purchase" links still lead to a dead-end. Further deponent sayeth naught.

 

Thanks!

Perhaps...I have to wait and see.

 

Lifetime of the product, respectively "Free updates in the lifetime of this product.", like the program help tells us.

Cheers

 

bellgamin - Just checked and the purchase links for the Registry Workshop and ASCII Art Studio appear functional, just the one for MD is not working.

 

That is no accident IMO. Draw your own conclusions.

 

Wait so Malware Defender is no longer being sold?

 

Their site must be back up. I just went to it. Its still being sold.

 

error

 

Did you click on the "Purchase" links for MD? Obviously you did NOT click on those links. They are dead-ends.

The Torchsoft website is up now and has been up all along. The puzzling situation is the fact that all products sold by that website can be purchased --- with the sole exception being Malware Defender.

It is NOT possible to buy MD from the Torchsoft website. This has been the case since Stem's post on March 20 (post #18 in this thread).

The conclusion to be deduced from this situation is quite evident, if you think it through.

 

tried again and error

 

I am hoping MD is still around. I have seen similar events with both ProcessGuard and AppDefend/RegDefend. The developers stopped development either for personal reasons or lack of profit. HIPS programs because of their complexity have never been popular with novice Internet users. It is ironic both PG and AD/RD are still being sold although both have not seen any development in at least two years and there is no longer any support of these products. At least we have seen a recent update to MD (last month). Hoping we will see some more.

 

IMO MD is still around & will remain so for the foreseeable future. My tea leaves say a metamorphosis is in progress, but not unto demise.

 

I think that lifetime license is ending for newcomers...like me.

 

Lifetime licenses are not a good business model for security apps. Why? Because security apps have to continuously be updated in order to deal with ever-more-powerful malware.

Hoping that license fees from new users will cover the costs of continuously updating the versions for lifetime-licensed users is tantamount to a Ponzi scheme. Eventually the balloon will burst.

 

what's up w/ malware defender ... is this amazing app about to be discontinued?

 

same old story maybe 1 man army cant last long in this filed
R.I.P MD we all love ya

 

On the good side

a) Xioalin applies the correct ethics by not facilitating purchase anymore

b) Life time lisence model is not a viable business model, Sandboxie and WinpAtrol seem to be the only ones who manage to stay in business

c) MD's x32 bit defense will stay viable until end of life of XP. XP SP3 is the last service pack, no major changes anymore. On top of that MD is intended to deal with vulnabilities in the x32 NT kernel, so for existing lisence holders it is a loss but with limited effect.

d) Chinese market is a huge market, possible scenario's: Xiaolin joins a another (bigger) company, knowledge capital of MD will be secured, code will be in the deal, so a re-brand (pro security scenario) will be in the making or code knowledge will be re-used in another commercial application (Boclean scenario). So MD will be phased out, but bits of code and knowledge will "phenix in" to another application.

Just me 2 cents

 

Xiaolin said he's changing domain name and server provider in this thread (sandworm is him).

But there's rumor also says that he's joining another security company 360safe. If anyone still remembers mj0011,who had written several POCs that caused MD made several updates in a short time,he is also working for 360safe. Well,just rumor.

 

It would be nice to see a post from xiaolin about Malware Defender. Maybe he just made a coding error and that's why the site won't let you buy MD.

 

I've sent an email to Xiaolin with a link to this thread if he would like to make a post.

Hopefully MD lives on, best classical HIPS available imho.