Linux for beginners

Discussion in 'all things UNIX' started by Krusty, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. Krusty

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    I haven't got past the EULA yet but it is Win8.1. I'm wondering whether I should try upgrading and activating Win10 on it, just in case.
     
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    Thanks Roger. The other way I've heard is to set your clock back to 28th July, 2016. I might try one or the other methods so that if one of my older machines die I can do clean fresh win10 install on the Lenovo.

    Cheers!
     
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    Roger, I've gone to that site, clicked the button and was told my machine was OK to upgrade and is currently downloading Windows 10 as I type this. Mind you that with all the Lenovo + third-party bloat, if I ever want to use Win10 on this machine it will definitely be a clean install, not the upgrade.

    Thanks again. :thumb:
     
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    Here I am on my first visit to Wilders Security forums on an installed Linux machine. Yay! :D
     
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    Hmm, Firefox seems slow compared to my Windows machines. :ouch:
     
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    Yeah, you'll be good with 'don't break'. Linux is pretty safe all on its own. Mint is a nice experience enjoy.
     
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    I have experienced this on a few distros, like Ubuntu, Debian, and Mint. Even on Debian Stable, Firefox keeps crashing for no reason :/
    On openSUSE and Arch/Parabola, however, I've never encountered a problem regarding speed or stability.
     
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    Firefox wasn't crashing, just slow. I left my machine on over night and for some reason FF seems quicker this morning. I installed Chrome and it seems even quicker. I did lose the ability to connect to the 'net until I restarted though.

    One problem I have is while connected to my HD TV by HDMI I get no audio when playing Flash Player videos.
     
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    Man, Linux feels like a real downgrade to Windows as far as performance goes. I can't count how many times I've lost internet connection, although it shows as being connected I can't access any sites but my other devices have no such issue. :thumbd:

    I might just have a third Windows 10 machine after all. :ninja:

    Oh, and where did my trash can icon go?? It was there before I restarted but it has gone missing since. o_O
     
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    In my limited usage of Linux Mint I had no networking issues. Everything worked well, right from when it was installed. However, I had no real reason to switch from Windows to an aternative OS, so my usage has been very limited.
     
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    It is possible my network problem was related to Telstra. It seems others were having problems at the same time and since changing my DNS settings I haven't lost connection since. Also, Firefox seems quicker now too.
     
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    Well that didn't last long. No sooner had I posted that and once again this machine would not connect to any sites but my other machines had no problem.

    I'm just about done with this experiment.

    Edit: Gees, this sounds familiar - http://www.ocsmag.com/2016/07/13/linux-2017-the-road-to-hell/ - thanks to @Windows_Security for the link.
     
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    Well, after my failed experiment (sorry Linux / Unix purests) I installed Windows 10 and the difference is remarkable. The Lenovo was never going to be a super-computer with an Intel Celeron processor, but it does have 4GB of RAM and a brand new SSD. The performance difference is like trying to run through mud up to your knees with rubber boots on compared to jumping on a 2-stroke dirt bike. Mint may have its place but Windows 10 just works!

    I may try again at some point but for now... nup!

    Thank you all for you advice and encouragement.

    Dave

    Edited to include the correct processor.
     
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    I agree. Not that I had any issues with Mint personally, but I personally see no good reason to ditch Windows, as I like Windows 10 too much.

    I don't mind messing round with Linux very occasionally, but I don't think I'll ever use for more than that.
     
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    Reinstalled W10 over Seven recently, and a couple of days afterwards I got a BSOD.
    Don't remember the exact message though.
    Did some search in the Net about it, and saw posts about touchpad drivers.
    Don't even use a touch pad...
    I have a very straightforward setup, with a PC which is about 8 years old.
     
  19. I have to say I am starting to like Xubuntu, everything installed well, even adding FireJail and AppArmor to Chromium went okay with the directions on the web.
     
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    I'm running Budgie.... I like the GNOME 3 desktop fork. Its GNOME Shell but tweaked with a user-friendly interface.

    Its a minimal setup and you can get running your programs right away. I launch mine from Plank dock.
     
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    If you install VB, no need to worry messing up the Windows boot loader. Linux OSes run in their own dedicated virtual environment inside Windows.
     
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    Sometimes NetworkManager can be a complete ***.
     
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    I agree but it depends on how you install the Linux OS. In my current computer I have 10 Windows OS and 4 Linux OS on HD0. The Linux OS have grub installed into the partition boot sector and not into the MBR so my boot manager, BIBM, isn't affected.
     
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    I removed rolling FF from my LTS Linux and replaced it with FF ESR. So far, so good.

    Reduces the burden of frequent updates to the browser on systems that see only security and bug fixes.

    Neither Ubuntu LTS or openSUSE Leap are bleeding edge - which suits me just fine since an untested update could break them.
     
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    Well, I want e10s. So no ESR for me ;)
     
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