Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by Hungry Man, Dec 23, 2011.
Interesting. A yearly or monthly fee however.
Have you installed the free trial yet?
I don't have access to a Windows machine at the moment, so not yet.
Hmm, sorry to sound like Scrooge here, but why should I pay 5 bucks a month/45 a year for what they offer, when the same thing can be done, and by trusted and well known companies for free? Especially considering they look to only support Firefox. A free Sandboxie, coupled with a few extensions, and I have probably better protection than what they offer.
The only VPN/proxy provider that can be trusted IMHO is Ipredator: https://www.ipredator.se/ (service offered by The Pirate Bay)
More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipredator
Hi, I'm the guy behind Light Point Security. I thought I would create an account here to answer any questions that may come up.
@dw426, you're right there are free alternatives out there. The benefit we bring to the table is the ease of use. Our software integrates seamlessly into the browser, so there's no need to manage additional applications - allowing even someone like my mom to use it without a problem. It's a really unique product. I'm obviously biased, but I encourage you to give it a try. (We offer a free 30 day trial, no credit card required.)
Right now we only support Firefox, but we plan on supporting IE and Chrome in the near future.
I'll be monitoring this thread, if anyone has any other questions/comments feel free to ask. I'm happy to address any concerns.
Thanks for the info badkins.
That's really very little logging and has less to do with privacy and more to do with service issues. They seem more concerned with general protection than trying to be another Tor or what have you.
@Badkins: Welcome to Wilders I should say my other post wasn't meant to "poo poo" your service. I think it's a habit of many of us here to use ourselves as examples of why something is good, bad, needed or not. For me, I already know how to protect myself with various tools and am used to taking the "hard way". For a normal user sitting at home wondering what the devil an AV even is, your service may be a Godsend.
Why did this get moved to privacy forums? If I'd considered it privacy software I wouldn't have bothered posting it lol
None of that logging stuff matters at all. That's less than what most websites will collect from you - really bare minimum stuff.
The concept is cool but I wonder what other kind of protections are involved. What happens if a server is compromised?
Still, I can see the benefits of this. Like VPN'ing into a trusted zone.
@marktor I'm curious. Which of these is earning us a thumbs down?
@dw426: Thanks. No offense taken to your original post. I completely understand where you are coming from. I just wanted to clarify our value added. We knew going in that we would meet a lot of knowledgeable folks who are fine with taking the "hard way", but we're hoping that people such as yourself would recommend our service to their non-computer savvy relatives.
Yeah, I was wondering about that too. While using our service does offer some privacy benefits, malware protection is our focus.
As for compromised servers, we regularly drop vms and restore to trusted images. We use 2 levels of virtualization and both are reimaged regularly. We may add some tripwire-like functionality in the future as a way to actively schedule a reimaging. I can go into more details on that if any one is curious. Our site has more in depth descriptions as well here.
Sorry Ipredator uses PPTP, that's bad! Second they don't respond to emaill communication when trying to get any pre-sales questions before signing up to their services.
Ipredator is not good at all!
You want Sweden? Use PRQ 100% better; http://prq.se/
Follow and read the post I made to learn who's good and who's not;
Did you guys catch this part about Light Point Security;
Because over 99% of all malware targets Windows computers, we use a Linux operating system for both our cloud computers and OpenVZ computers. This simple act immunizes our servers from almost all online threats. On top of that, we take the time to follow security best practices within those computers, such as running the browsers with as few privileges as possible.
So, just use Linux yourself and you'll be safer too, it's really the bottom line here!
You don't need Light Point Security, get into Linux and even run a dual boot system, so you can run Windows and Linux on the same box!
Sorry for the delay in reply. The fact that you log users IP of your service etc.
I agree with Hungry Man Im not really sure why this got moved to the privacy forum.
It's a point of convenience by far. Setting up linux is a pain, setting up dual booting is a huge pain too.
Neither of those two I consider to be a pain; it's maintaining Linux I find to be a pain.
It's not a pain at all, nowadays it's rather easy...
Linux is not difficult to use, OSX and Windows in their own respects can be even a greater pain...
I've used all 3 systems and seen the pros and cons of all of them, which they all have their own, there's nothing perfect, but Linux, with some experience is actually the simplest to keep running...
And by the way, what is this 'Maintaining' you're talking about in regards to Linux? There's nothing you need to maintain in order to run Linux...
It is for someone who's used Windows their entire life. This offers a simple solution to novice users. It's also probably not some uber-friendly Distro full of attack surface like Ubuntu and instead a much more locked down server.
My point exactly. This cuts the experience out of the equation. Provide security - no experience necessary.
not some uber-friendly distro, what is not?
what is full of attack surface, by the way?
We're not talking about a lot of experience here, actually it's just having some confidence, in putting a cd/dvd in the rom and following directions is about all it takes.
Placing yourself in someone's hands with no experience in any situation in life is not a good idea, even computers... Look I'll put it this way, even with my many years of experience I don't even want to use Windows because of all the threats on many levels, it's not easy to deal with, that's why I stick to Unix/Linux, less problems.
AND if you stop and realized it, once you get comfortable using either OSX or Linux, you have less you need to worry about and deal with when it comes to OS security!
What most Windows users don't realize, is once you get past a little bit of a learning curve, the world of Unix/Linux/OSX in many ways is simpler then Windows, of course I'm talking on the security side of things, since that is what this is all about...