Leading Privacy Advocates Release New Tracking Protection Lists for IE9

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by ronjor, Jan 24, 2012.

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  1. ronjor

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    http://windowsteamblog.com/ie/b/ie/...se-new-tracking-protection-lists-for-ie9.aspx
     
  2. Spooony

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    What about the blokes using mobile broadband? E.g Modem and sim to connect to the internet? Those cookies get set on the network out of your reach and not on your browser
     
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    ..? I haven't heard of cookies being "set on a network" before?

    On topic, I doubt these lists provide anything that Fanboy's lists haven't already covered, but it's good for people that may only want to block something specific.
     
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    From the blog: http://privacyonline.org.uk/

    Custom TPL engine? Now I'm really interested.
     
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    Where do you think does Opera mini and such keeps the cookies? For mobile broadband to get on the internet you need to go through a ARP PROXIE. Did you know that? Theres your un-removeable cookie
     
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    What does a proxie ARP have to do with that? I honestly don't know what that is. I know that ARP is typically handled by switches, which map IPs to MAC addresses. I know of no cookies.

    Is that simply a way in which ARP is used to map to a proxy?
     
  8. funkydude

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    Proxies don't store content, they pass content along (sometimes based on certain filtering rules/user permissions/etc), that's their purpose, to proxy information... They aren't a place for a website to store a profile on a person.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server
    I'm unsure as to the specifics behind how Opera Mini works, I don't use it and have no use for it. But if I remember correctly all it does is compress data, it doesn't build a profile on your usage. If it did, the privacy advocates would be up in arms.
     
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    The core network uses service nodes, which are servers. Thats where a cookie is stored with your info on mobile broadband devices.
     
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    Opera turbo uses Opera mini servers as well. That means the cookies gets stored on the mini servers as well. The proxies you are thinking about and I am talking about are 2 different things. Mobile broadband is fake internet like we call it. It is not real TCP/IP it simulates some of the stack in the protocol. Also providers send ack and such messages before connections are made to reserve bandiwth and such. They also re use UDP streams on networks where they assign one ip to all their customers. Now to get onto the internet it has to go through servers so to speak. It will set a cookie with all your details on. You cant delete it.
     
  11. funkydude

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    So does all data, where it is compressed and passed on. You suggesting to me that data is then kept simply doesn't sound normal, that would be masses of data and would have sparked quite a big debate. So please bring forth some evidence of this.

    That's one way to describe it. A more accurate way to describe it would be one giant Wireless network with a proxy server that decides who gets access and when. The same way a corporate network would work.

    I'm not sure if this is true for all networks, but it has nothing to do with profiling you with cookies.

    Yes, a proxy, just like I've detailed above.

    Again, the proxy will have access to a database with access permissions and usage restrictions. It would be odd if this was stored in a cookie, but to suggest that this would be accessible from the outside (websites) is a bit silly. Please bring forth some evidence of this happening.
     
  12. Spooony

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    Go learn how mobile broadband work please
     
  13. funkydude

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    Figured, bring forth a BS point, don't back it up with evidence.
     
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