Languy99 tests, how reliable ?

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by CloneRanger, Aug 26, 2010.

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  1. mhl6493

    mhl6493 Registered Member

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    As do I! Slow down. What's the rush? Just wish Matt had time to produce more videos...
     
  2. SweX

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    Yes Indeed!:thumb:
     
  3. Rampastein

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    I have watched two of his videos in the past, declared them a waste of time and haven't watched any after those.

    While he tests zero-day protection, he doesn't really seem to care about how easy-to-use the products are (for example, if there are pop-ups, he answers everything correctly while a normal user wouldn't) and if there would be settings to alter for advanced users. He also doesn't explain anything about the pop-ups and doesn't give the products a chance to remove the malware themselves before running all the on-demand scanners.
    Agreed.
     
  4. Peter2150

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    In that case the OP totally misspoke.
     
  5. PhantomPhenix

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    sigh...

    Can we please stay on topic here? Comments about Languys affiliation with Comodo should be left alone for another thread/topic.
     
  6. clocks

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    Well, in fairness, I think his relationship with Comodo falls into this discussion. It can impact if people think he is unbiased.
     
  7. Triple Helix

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    I don't know why this thread is aloud to continue as it is about an individual and not about software IMHO.

    TH
     
  8. clocks

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    Good point. It should probably be youtube videos in general.

    Personally I enjoy watching the videos, and think they do have some merit.
     
  9. icr

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    I guess languy is fast coz he has to finish the the review in about 10 min and he doesnt make the Part 2 review of a given software unless necessary. With this context I do agree he is somewhat unreliable with certain genre of software, like he gave a review regarding malware defender and his review sucked bigtime:thumbd:
     
  10. jmc777

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    Looks like Prevx was killed by malware at one point, as you can see the Prevx icon reappear in the system tray at 4:18. At 4:48 you can see him check the system tray and the red Prevx icon from the old 'killed' process disappears.
     
  11. trjam

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    Maybe because the OP made it about a certain film maker and his art.
     
  12. LODBROK

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    languy99 couldn't test a light bulb.
     
  13. CogitoTesting

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    Wait a minute

    I think we give this guy more importance than he deserves by discussing him. This advice should go for me as well: Guys let us discuss something important, something worthwhile. For example did you know Online-Armor has a x64 version of its firewall? Let's talk about that or something else on other threads. Please let this thread die in peace. Enough already.

    Thanks.
     
  14. Noob

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    I've watched a few videos of these guys in the past :p
    It gets pretty boring fast (I mean every video including languy99, mrizos etc.) :)
     
  15. firzen771

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    the only value his "tests" have is to show u what the program looks like, beyond that its just a waste of time. idk why he continues to make such terrible "tests", then again the majority of the people watching him on youtube do nothing but praise him and whatever he seems to say so i guess hes got an audience (no matter how blind they are)...

    and his ability to take constructive criticism on how to improve is non-existent, he simply replies saying he knows what hes doing then goes ahead and repeats the same mistakes, just a waste of time.
     
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    i think we should also consider the time he puts into his videos and all the work and trouble some times with slow down when testing so we should consider his valuable time of testing;) doin a video in youtube is not easy as you think it takes time and work:D so i say thanks to languy and matt for working hard on the videos
     
  17. AvinashR

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    See his latest video on Online Armor ++ ... Why the heck he allowed last malware to run safer? Why he didn't blocked it?
     
  18. dw426

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    Because he's an idiot? Lol.


    @Jmonge: Um, with all due respect, why? Why should he be thanked or praised for spending, what you deem, a lot of time making videos of tests that can't even be taken seriously? I'm not attempting to be mean here, I just find it hard to thank someone who, to be honest, doesn't seem to know a whole lot about what he is doing, for putting up flawed test after test. At best, he's not being taken seriously. At worst, he's giving people who watch the wrong impression of these security apps.
     
  19. datarishik

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    Exactly. It takes a lot of time and effort to make those videos and so people like Languy99 and mrizos (Matt) need to be appreciated for the work they have done. But I would say that this thread is pointless because I see only bashing here instead of some constructive criticism. Languy99 has even tested some DNS services against malware samples. So that speaks a lot.
     
  20. begemot64

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    This thread is pointless, but only because Languy/Mrizos/anyone else's videos are nearly entirely pointless (and worse, seriously misleading) from a testing point of view.

    Throwing 10 links from MDL and then checking with MBAM/Hitman Pro to validate whether a security product is "good" or not is abysmally inadequate methodologically.

    The product that let through the most samples in a test may actually be the best product. The product that blocked all 10 links may be the worst product. A sample size of 10 is just hilarious, as is the level of techical knowledge displayed by these testers. And control testing with something like MBAM? No comment.

    I'm sure they all have good intentions for making these videos, but unfortunately, they provide only extremely limited, anecdotal evidence. What's worse, naive people who don't know better look at these reviews, think "this guy sounds reasonable, which product did well in his tests? I'll pick that one". This is stupidity (or more often than not, ignorance).

    It's a real shame that people waste time making these videos, and others waste time watching them. Several people here have commented that "they have put in a lot of hard work and time" - this really should have been spent elsewhere.

    The only merit in any of them is that you get to see program interfaces; however, there are plenty of better videos for that purpose.
     
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  21. Matthijs5nl

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    Because it is impossible to test an HIPS? It is impossible to say out of a strange warning whether something is malware or not, so for example a newbie may think that the second link he tried was genuine program and just click allow without saferun.

    The fact is it is impossible to test out a HIPS program, all of them.
     
  22. DOSawaits

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    Whatever the "testers" do, all they rely on for knowing their system is clean, is the task manager, they even don't have the "Show processes from all users" checked, and they even don't have the notification area to automatically show all icons by default. They simply enjoy running a VM and testing some stuff out, but you shouldn't take them too serious because they have 0.0 knowledge about good anti-malware testing.
     
  23. NAMOR

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    My problem with these testers is that they do not always verify that the .exe they run from the MDL is in fact malware. They rely on scanners to determine their findings and the fact that the exe is listed on the MDL. See my previous post below. And the tester from the video is not the only one on youtube that I have seen do this.


    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1591779&postcount=24
     
  24. AvinashR

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    Oh i see .... So i guess you must have saw him allowing malware to run outside the Comodo Sandbox... Have you ever saw that? I guess you haven't ... No need to mention the conspiracy behind that..

    No doubt is he's doing a good job, but hey he's also misleading people who are watching him ... Now Question arises, How? That's what you better know than me...
     
  25. AvinashR

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    Agree with Namor ... All these samples are not Zero Day malwares ... If they were Zero Day, then i guess they won't be listed on MDL ..
     
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