lack of common sense, paranoid, or novices?

Discussion in 'other security issues & news' started by zcale, Sep 14, 2013.

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  1. zcale

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    I am surprised at the number of paranoid users at wilders. I can tell they have little to no experience with computers. They think it's cool for others to check out their post or signature with a huge list of security applications they are running on their computer, it is like building a new brand new desktop to them. Can anyone imagine what these people are even doing on their computers? Are they purposely visiting malware domains and testing executables on their computers?

    I have a computer running just AdBlock Plus and WOT with Chrome, and I have no virus or malware on my computer even without an antivirus. Most of the malware are from ads, and it is common sense to only visit sites with a good rating on WOT. On another computer I have an internet security suite, and it has been running fine. There is a great site like VirusTotal for a second opinion on files.

    So are people here at wilders lack of common sense, paranoid, or novices?
     
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  2. Hungry Man

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    lol what are you expecting to happen in this topic?
     
  3. zcale

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    i don't know. isn't this part of other security issues and for someone to express their opinion? your post sounds like a threat to me. are you one of those guys with two antivirus running on your computer?
     
  4. Hungry Man

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    Nope, no antivirus. Just pointing out what a boring and obvious attempt to troll this is. And if you expect anything other than a quickly locked topic idk what to tell you lol
     
  5. noone_particular

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    New poll.
    How many responses before this thread gets closed?
    My vote is about 6.
     
  6. blacknight

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    I think he expects that we stop using all our unnecessary security softwares and begin a new happy life :D
     
  7. FreddyFreeloader

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    I get a chuckle when folks who are running 3, 4, 5, 6+ security apps are shocked when their machine stops working properly, and then start blaming the software developers, Microsoft, et al.
    Just by their writing style, I suspect quite a few members are teenagers or younger.
    There are some real experts here who I do take tips from, however.
    FUD rules a lot of the time here.
     
  8. LnSrocks

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    these folks r the ones contributing to wot rating :D
     
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    Point names, sailor! :isay:

    People need to quit using that silly-barbaric-inadequate-dreaded-godawful-unevolved-dictatorship-inaccurate-messy-ungodly little... thing.

    Neither do I.

    From software installations and pendrives.

    A recipe to disaster. Ever heard about hacked websites?

    Or maybe they just love to do what they love to do. It's their computers, their money, their time. What? You're the security setup police of some sort? o_O
     
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    lack of common sense, paranoid, or novices?

    It's a valid query.
    I do worry about some folks state of mind here at times.
     
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    well said :thumb:
     
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    There's better ways to do it than resorting to name calling and deliberate provocations on their first post, then saying the first reply sounds like a threat.
     
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    Your absolutely right zcale I have followed your recommendations to the letter and now feel totally ..................ZOIKS!!! I`ve just got 5000000 infections.... thanks a lot Mr Virus friendly.

    Seriously though, you may have appoint about "paranoia" as any Wilders participant would have clean system with a basic setup due to the fact they`re pretty sussed with regard to safe surfing and all that malarkey.

    The point your missing is that people here enjoy the pro`s and con`s of the various security app`s and their effect on system resources etc, etc .....

    I can remember a debate about the worth or not of anti-executable programs
    and the debater in a moment of self awareness wondering why they were worrying about some theoretical pin hole sized flaw in their fortress like defences.
     
  14. Hungry Man

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    If it were a valid inquiry it could be worded differently. I think I recall another similar topic on the same subject where someone asked why people feel the need to run so much security software etc. It was handled way better.

    Either way, people run what they want to run. Who really cares in the end? It's one thing to jab on a forum for the sake of argument, but I assume that this forum and peoples security setups take up very little of their time day to day.
     
  15. twl845

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    Stop! You're talking like a newbie. o_O
     
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    How old are you? o_O
     
  17. Techwiz

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    Paranoia, implies an irrational fear. I tend to think of myself as privacy conscious. Most of the "paranoid" fears are based on facts. The government is spying on its people. Companies are data mining and logging everything. Sure there are some companies that may not. But is it worth the risk, just to say I'm not paranoid?

    Security through obscurity is of course a major concerns, since an attacker can use the information to recon my system. Unfortunately, this is the internet and people lie. You don't know what I'm running right now. I experiment a lot and I don't see a need to keep the community up-to-date with these changes. Even if you did get my setup, you'd still need to recon my system. So what's changed?

    You should be careful about throwing around names. Making presumptions is dangerous and worse it gets you in trouble when you open your mouth. I don't know what the education level and experience is for each member, neither do you. Even if you did, what would it tell you. I know people with bachelors degrees that are dumber than bricks. How they keep their jobs is a mystery to me.

    It's interesting you shared details about your setup. Wait, we aren't suppose to do that right? However you justify it, its possible others have done the same for those exact reasons. Hell, we might have better reasons to share a setup on a public thread. Especially those of us deemed "paranoid".

    Am I the only that things we should pin this thread as an example of what not to do, instead of just closing it?
     
  18. J_L

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    I bet you thought it was all paranoia before the Snowden leaks as well. Plus, I can tell you have shown little to no experience with computers.
     
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    Actually I was certain they could do these things prior to PRISM. My service provider makes logs of my messages and calls available to me via my account. If they keep the logs, its common sense the government can access them. So I really didn't need conformation. But I think there are a lot of things people have invented from watching movies, reading books, etc. that could be considered paranoid. It's like the phone game you play in school. You tell a message to someone that is based on fact (what you know is possible). By the time it gets back to you, its morphed into this conspiracy about listening devices in your corn flakes. I'd dismiss this as paranoia, as it would me more practical to consumer electronics and turn those into listening/surveillance devices. Convince companies to install web-cams in laptops, etc. Let the consumer buy and install the device for you. Hell, some companies will help you with installation. I'd like to add, that the patriot act and recent PRISM disclosure has simply widened my eyes to things I hadn't really considered.
     
  20. FreddyFreeloader

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    Older than you? 67 to be exact. Been on the net since 1995 with zero infections.
     
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    Hi Techwiz, I for one thought that we show our setup so when we post a problem, folks can help us better if they know what we're running.
    I agree with you about pinning this thread. :)
     
  22. twl845

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    Son, I was 74 on September 9th and I've been on the net since 1997 with one virus that I picked up on a porno site in the same year. Ain't the golden years great? (cough) :D
     
  23. DesuMaiden

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    I virtualize all of my web activities except for my online gaming and IRL work stuff. I use virtual box for all of my web activities.
     
  24. FreddyFreeloader

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    Congratulations! Most of my time is spent in the MD's office these days.;)
     
  25. J_L

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    Guess I should've quoted the OP (original intended receiver), who appears to be a troll that disappeared from the discussion.
     
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