KIS 2009 - slow web browsing

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by mvdu, Oct 5, 2008.

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  1. edd3800

    edd3800 Registered Member

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    I agree I won't put up with slowdowns. If I notice it's slower, I try and tweak it. If I can't I uninstall. Try something else. Since many products are now using some form of web protection that seem to slow down surfing. I tried several products before picking one.
    As I said early in this thread I tried KIS 2009 could not fix the slow down problem. It's funny it came up today. Back when I was trying to figure out how to speed up Kaspersky I called a guy that I knew had KIS 2009. Frank and his Dad both use it. He said neither of them had any slow down at all. Today he came by my house while I was on the computer playing poker. While talking I went to several webpages. He said Holy **** your lighting fast. Well to make a long story short, He left here was going home to uninstall KIS and test without it.
     
  2. mvdu

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    I really want to use KIS, but the one website where I spend much of my time at is where the slowdown is very noticeable. So I'll have to choose between Avira, ESS, and NIS as I just can't find a solution.
     
  3. edd3800

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    The same here that's why I spent a week trying to work it out. I also had the same problem with Avira Premium. But not with Avira Free
     
  4. doktornotor

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    Well, that's because Avira Free has no webguard ;)
     
  5. Farmand

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    No problem here.. KIS 2009 work great.. And i have no slow-downs what-so-ever.

    KIS 2009 rocks if you ask me.
     
  6. the mul

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    I have been reading all the posts with interest and I can honestly say that I have no slow downs with KAV 2009 all settings set to max, it works very well while surfing with firefox 3, but I have read many threads over on the kaspersky forum about the slow web browsing issue, so lets hope that kaspersky can fix this issue for people who are experiencing this problem.


    THE MUL
     
  7. Zombini

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    You are absolutely right.. turning off 80 and 443 kills your web protection. Not sure who would recommend that :)
     
  8. Zombini

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    Actually that is far from the truth.. If you really want to see how good a web scanner is then look at the number of times the vendor has to rev a web page drive-by download exploit signature. If they keep revving it, then that tells you that their web scanner is not very contextual and they are writing string-scanner sigs which are very reactive and hence you will keep getting infected (if in fact you are a promiscuous surfer).

    The best web scanner I am aware of is the NIS2009 Browser Protection and Intrusion Prevention web scanners.

    Kaspersky has revved one of their RDSDataspace signatures (the #1 exploited drive-by exploit on the web) 1220 times. See http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=psyme

    On the other hand Symantec has updated its version of the same signature http://www.symantec.com/business/security_response/attacksignatures/detail.jsp?asid=50031 just twice. That should tell you how generic the signatures are and how good the web scanner is.
     
  9. mvdu

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    In my tests, NIS browser protection and IDS were very inconsistent, so I don't tout it as better. Speedier, yes.
     
  10. Zombini

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    What kind of inconsistencies are you seeing. Not sure if you know, but Browser Protection may not detect the attack if your system is already patched. I say "may" because it all depends on the signature. If the signature is based on a vulnerable method of an ActiveX being called, any Microsoft's patch has set the Kill bit on the ActiveX, then the activeX will not instantiate even when you visit a vulnerable page, so Browser Protection wont detect it. Not so with other "dumb" string scanner based web scanners.

    If you have an example of a exploit web page that is able to bypass NIS2009, let me know (please PM).
     
  11. Bunkhouse Buck

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    No one must install the webguard. Do a custom install without it and Avira Premium is fast as lightning.
     
  12. Ed_H

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    Yep...I have uninstalled the webguard and Avira Premium is very fast. What I still can't figure out is whether webguard is of any real value. Is it all just marketing hype or is there a real purposeo_O?
     
  13. emperordarius

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    It is very fast with it, too.
     
  14. Bunkhouse Buck

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    100% hype for unsophisticated (novice) users. The guard will stop (or should stop) anything that tries to execute. Any http scanning slows you down at least to some degree. Hundreds of posts about this is here if you run a search.

    See Stephan Kurtzhals a few posts down:

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1073294
     
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  15. mvdu

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    I don't remember the pages (they were rogue AV pages,) because there are so many of those pages. But I was able to install rogue AVs without it detecting the activity.

    Back to the subject. AntiVir AV does ok but only with WebGuard uninstalled. I wonder why Kaspersky can't make their web guard fast while Eset can?
     
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    Look what i quoted in post #45.
    Actually, i was agreeing with yeuxbleus on how light and unobtrusive the Kaspersky web-scanner is. No more no less. I've compared it against all others, IMO it's still the best http scanner in terms of lightness and performance, better even than Aviras one which i use.

    I disagree here. I consider Norton products a joke in terms of malware detection. And yes, i've already tested their 2009 too.
     
  17. Honyak

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    I finally dumped KAV 2009 because of the slow surfing issue, and I kept being told to un-install this and that which had worked fine with previous versions.
    Man, KAV 2009 just got to be more than I needed, so I moved on.
    YMMV
     
  18. poutine

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    My surfing is fine again with KIS 2009 ;) Alli needed to do was reset my router and reboot and all was well, granted some webpages take a fraction longer but i am happy in the knowledge that KIS is doing its job and protecting me wherever i go.
     
  19. TonyW

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    I'm not sure how to test the speed of web page scanning, but on my system, which only has 256MB memory, the pages load very quickly with no noticeable slowdowns. I even have it set at High.
     
  20. doktornotor

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    Well, unless they've changed it recently, they don't install the webguard thing by default in Premium either, but that wasn't the point. :)
     
  21. Bunkhouse Buck

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    It is installed by default and my point was/is that you can do a custom install and not install it.
     
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  22. Zombini

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    The recent Secunia test shows how shitty the KIS 2009 web protection is. Like I said, long before the test, KIS 2009's web protection doesn't even come close to NIS2009.
     
  23. lordpake

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    Shitty? :D I guess you didn't read that thread so closely.

    There's at least one good comment there, by Stefan Kurtzhals (4th post)
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=222621
     
  24. Macstorm

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    ROFL
    Best joke ever.
     
  25. steve1955

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    Why do I get the impression your Anti-Kav?:-Its the test that is "shitty" not Kis,sorry to burst your bubble!:-If you believe the results of tht test then you come to the conclusion there is no point in running any of the suites,thy're a waste of hd space!:-just because you seem to have an intense dislike of a product doesn't make that product "bad"(or shitty!)
     
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