'Kernel memory leaking' Intel processor design flaw forces Linux, Windows redesign

Discussion in 'other security issues & news' started by Minimalist, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. blacknight

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    Someone could suggest me the best program to do this in Opera 12 ?
     
  2. Sampei Nihira

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    Can you specify?
     
  3. Rasheed187

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    BTW, I just tried this, and it says Firefox and Chrome are not vulnerable?

    https://xlab.tencent.com/special/spectre/spectre_check.html
    https://www.ghacks.net/2018/01/11/find-out-if-your-browser-is-vulnerable-to-spectre-attacks/
     
  4. itman

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    I assume this is the equivalent of IE11's tabbed browser processing. Also Google might have already rolled out the Chrome patches that were originally scheduled for 1/23.
     
  5. Sampei Nihira

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    I didn't bother to go through the effort to ID them all. I just used Eset's System Cleaner to reset all back to default.
     
  7. Rasheed187

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    I'm not following, are you saying that you are vulnerable? I was running an old version of both Firefox and Chrome, protected with Sandboxie.
     
  8. itman

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    I know you're trying awfully hard to convince yourself you are not vulnerable .......... Your processor has an internal 4MB L2 cache which indeed would make it vulnerable.

    The original Pentium processor only had a small L1 16K cache that was only used internally: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P5_(microarchitecture). Anything after that point had a L2 cache therefore making them vulnerable.
     
  9. itman

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    If neither are patched, then you are vulnerable. Sandboxie is not going to protect you against these vulnerabilities.
     
  10. Sampei Nihira

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    But also the wyxchari processor has L2:

    https://ark.intel.com/en/products/36331/Intel-Atom-Processor-N270-512K-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB

    and he says it's safe.
     
  11. itman

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    I assume he has one of the Atom processors listed here:
    https://forum.level1techs.com/t/list-of-cpus-most-likely-immune-to-spectre/123128

    Assumed is they didn't employ the branch prediction technology all other Intel processors use.
     
  12. elapsed

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    Using an old browser that isn't updated anymore isn't a safe approach for combating new and unknown threats?

    News at 11, this is brand new information....
     
  13. blacknight

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    Yes, I know ( it's not the only browser that I use ). Here in the Forum some users go on to use Opera 12.
    I trust my multi layer defense.
     
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    Like @itman said, sbie will not protect against Spectre. I don't know how or why your outdated browsers would pass the test unless it's flawed. It's best to use an up-to-date browser, and with Chrome enabling site-isolation flag, although not necessarily 100% effective because there could be cache data remaining in memory, will help a great deal. ASLR which helps mitigate browser vulnerabilities can be bypassed by Spectre, so that's especially a good reason to keep it updated.

    EDIT

    It's also being advised to clear browser data when finished and really important to log off so your session token is destroyed.
     
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    That's a shame, that they are not supporting such a recent model.
     
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    Strange, because I've received a heap of 'Optional' driver updates since it ran out of warranty on the 27th December.
     
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    To clarify, I know that Sandboxie won't protect against this, but I wanted to give info about my config. I also think it's weird that both FF and Chrome were not vulnerable, but it might be because of the method that this test uses to exploit the browser, who knows.
     
  23. Sampei Nihira

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    I’ve never heard of Techarp. How trustworthy are they?

    Reason for asking: my PC also has a Core 2 Duo and I’m still under the impression it is vulnerable.
     
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    https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...side-channel-analysis-and-intel-products.html

     
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