hi everyone, new here and just have a queery re KAV and these 20 virus files it detected. i recently installed KAV personal pro, and i ran a full system scan just now, and it detected 20 dangerous "viruses" or whatever these are, and most seem to derive from the "java" folder + a few others. i just wanted to know why does this java seem to be so troublesome and why is it on our pc if it seems to always have these nasty files in it. a sample of the bugs KAV detected trojan downloader.java.open connection.aj (x4) trojan downloader.java.open stream.c (x3) trojan.java.classloader.h (x2) trojan.jave.classloader.d (x2) trojan.java.classloader.c (x1) backdoor.win32.sdbot.xd (x2) trojan downloader.js.istbar.j (x3) trojan downloader.istbar.k (x2) trojan downloader.win32.ani.c (x1) where is the best place to go to identify these viruses, or should i go to the KASPERSKY website to check them out. cheers everyone.....GLEN btw, i ran the 2006 beta 222b but had a few small issues or bugs that i didnt like so i re-installed my KAV PP 5.0 but im hoping the propper release of KIS 2006 in jan or feb will be as good, or better than the current Kaspersky products. i tried nod32 trial as well but hated the interface and just wasnt as good as Kaspersky IMHO.