I know this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to be able to search spot the correct threads now... What options are there if one wants to have the latest freshly updated KAV definitions in use (and hopefully the improved and upcoming heuristics), but does not want to use the AV software itself from KAV? So, softwat the uses KAV definitions (and actually downloads them from the freshest source) that is not KAV? - eScan ? - does F-Secure still use KAV definitions ? - eXtendia AVK Pro? Do these actually download the definitions from KAV servers or are they late in the sense that they first download from KAV and then put it on their own servers for the clients to download?