Kaspersky: Mac, Linux, BSD open for attack

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  1. ronjor

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  2. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Hello,
    I have read that article a few days ago and found it very biased. First, Kaspersky has an agenda. Second, blank statements are nothing but populist politics: "Even OpenBSD..." Yes, everything is flawed by design. That does not mean the flaws are going to be the cause of any major problem any time soon if ever.
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    Only KAV and KIS are not flawed by design. :rolleyes:

    Good marketing stunt.
     
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    They definitely have an agenda and it it does seem to stretch the truth. I don't know enough about the operating system to make an argument. I'd guess the statement that 'all operating systems including unix like OSs have vulnerabilities' is closer to the truth though. Something you would agree with Mrk? Also the point that if executable aren't tightly controlled (i.e.unsigned), people will be trigger happy and click whatever they want seems valid.
     
  5. Mrkvonic

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    Hello,

    Vulnerabilities exist. Of course. It's self-evident and obvious as the sun. But the path from possible vulnerabilities to actual "problems" is a long, long one. Like saying, a man could die from a lightning strike. And how often does this happen?

    And then, a man could also take a 50-m earthing rod and climb onto Empire State building in a summer thunderstorm.

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    Perhaps that risk is bigger than some people realise? Distro maintainers have a lot of control over default options. I've seen default login of users. Some of these user friendly policy decisions have contributed greatly to windows being exploitable. If a linux distro does it, isnt there an issue there?
     
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    Hello,
    How many people you know / heard of got their distro compromised?
    Exactly.
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    You are right, I havent heard of anyone else who has got their linux install compromised...but thats because I don't know that many other people using linux. Isnt that part one of the points of the article?
     
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    I think the article is nonsense.... like Mrkvonic says, what's possible in theory and what happens practically speaking are 2 very different things, and I won't believe random blanket statements till I see actual details and exploits emerge...... Perhaps when we see Linux, Unix and Mac home desktop users dominate the home user market like Win now does, then maybe enough people will pick at 'em till something gives. But I won't hold my breath..... :)
     
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    mac's are starting to malware. but of course you have to excute it and give the malware your root password so it can install. so once again user fault.
    i know that all operatin systems have flaws. what counts is how fast the flaws are fixed. as default unix based operating systems are more secure. a simple example all user accounts have limited rights. quite alot of distros only allow logining in as root at the commandline. of course you still get the prompt for higher rights when its needed.

    soon enough pretty much all applications that work on windows will work on any unix based operating system.
    sooner the better IMO. the more people who use an operating system other than windows it will force microsoft to create a better OS otherwise they will lose money fast.
     
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  11. Mr2cents

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    This is pretty much old news. McAfee and Trend Micro basically said the same thing in an article written on Dec 5, 2001. Here's the Link
     
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    Is no more!
    Sad, but genuinely funny :D
     
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    The way I see it, Linux for instance, still only has about a 1% market share. It's more secure by design and all users are using browsers such as FF or Opera. I may be wrong but i'd also say that the average Linux user is probably more tech savvy than an average Windows user. I can't see any major exploits for some time yet if at all. What's the point? Why would anyone go to the trouble of trying to exploit it when they've got all those juicy MS users to go after? Surely it would be a futile exercise?
     
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