It's time to image...I think

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by FadeAway, Jul 25, 2007.

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  1. FadeAway

    FadeAway Registered Member

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    This is a new machine. Once I get a good Seagate image saved & tested,
    I can uninstall the app, but leave the image. Then, if trials
    of other Image software cause problems, I can re-install Seagate
    DiskWizard and restore the original clean image. Does anyone see
    any conflicts with that approach? Or perhaps there isn't even a need to
    uninstall DiskWizard
     
  2. farmerlee

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    With trueimage 10 you can uninstall the main program but leave the boot manager active. If anything goes wrong all you need to do is hit f11 during boot up and restore the image from there. Discwizard should be able to do the same.
     
  3. FadeAway

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    In addition, I have already created the emergency recovery boot CD
     
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    HELP!!!

    I am posting this from another computer.
    I ran the Discwizard recovery wizard, to restore the image.

    It rebooted into an Operation Progress screen, and just
    sat there for a half hour, no drive activity. So I hit F11 to cancel, and
    a screen came up asking me if I was sure I wanted to cancel
    but the mouse pointer was dead. It sat there for another 5 minutes
    then rebooted.
    When it did, it came up with :

    Verifying DMI pool data.....
    Error loading operating system_

    Soooo, I inserted the emergency recovery disk,
    reboot, and get the same message : Error loading operating system.

    Any suggestions Guru's, before I toss in the Windows reinstall disk?
     
  5. FadeAway

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    Problem solved if anyone should run into it.

    Somehow the process changed the device boot order sequence.
    It was trying to boot from a floppy first.

    Going into the BIOS setup, and changing the sequence back to
    Cd\Hard drive\Floppy caused the emergency recovery CD to load
    and successfully restore the image on boot.

    You learn something new every day.
     
  6. GroverH

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    Fadeaway,
    Glad to see your problem solved. As you found out "the details matter".

    Off line I was creating a response to your help request but it is no longer needed. However, you do need to be aware of many of the subtle differences in the routine of imaging.

    I would suggest you print out (even additionally save an image) of your Boot.ini file; plus a picture/printout of our system disk as displayed in Disk Management screen. Should you have future troubles, this info would be essential to know.

    Since I took the time to write out questions about what you did, I am going to go ahead and post these questions--just for your FYI.

    No response is necessary unless you have wish to clarify for yourself any of the questions.
    No response necessary. You solved your own problem.
     
  7. ErikAlbert

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    I'm using this sequence : Floppy - CD - Harddrive and it works, because I had also problems with any other sequence.
    If I insert a floppy and my CD-drive is empty, my computer will boot from the floppy.
    If I insert a CD and my floppy-drive is empty, my computer will boot from the CD.
    If my floppy-drive is empty and my CD-drive is empty, my computer will boot from the harddisk.
    I still don't know for sure what will happen, if I insert a floppy and insert a CD also, but my logical mind tells me that my computer will boot from the floppy, because the boot sequence starts with the floppy.

    I hope this helps, if it doesn't help, I hope you are able to forgive me. :D
     
  8. FadeAway

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    Hi EriKAlbert

    Well, your boot sequence is the one I found in my BIOS when I
    could not get anything to load. LOL.

    When nothing would load, I threw in the Windows reinstall disk to
    see if it would, and got the same error message again. That is
    when I suspected that the machine was not pointed at the right
    device on boot. So I booted into the BIOS and began poking around,
    changed the device boot order sequence and, voila!, the machine
    worked again.

    Perhaps your BIOS is set up differently from mine, and ATI somehow
    reset mine to a default configuration. I am only a novice when
    it comes to the BIOS setup. But after it was changed, the emergency
    recover disk booted and took 52 minutes to install the saved image of
    C:\ from E:\. The image installed perfectly, I have rebooted a number
    of times, and all is well.

    In future, I will restore from the CD recovery disc, rather than
    the program on C:\.
     
  9. ErikAlbert

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    I don't know, why it doesn't work for you, but my BIOS seems to work very logical, much more than yours. Are you really sure about this, in your case I would check it out again.
    Now, I can boot from floppy's and CD/DVD's without changing the boot sequence in BIOS and most probably you can't boot from floppy's anymore, unless you change the boot sequence and that is inconvenient.

    On the other hand booting from floppy's is old-fashioned and I'm pretty sure you can convert any bootable floppy into a bootable CD/DVD, if you know how to do it.
    I still have two floppy's, but I'm too lazy to figure out, how I can convert them into bootable CD's. It's not my priority #1. :)
     
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    A post script, mostly for newbies reading this thread:

    After running Seagate Discwizard for a couple of weeks, creating
    and restoring perfect images, I decided to invest the cash in
    the full version of Acronis TI 10.

    It's up and running here, and restoring full disc images absolutely
    perfectly. I decided to buy it for the added features, but mostly
    for the access to Acronis support if any problems ever crop up. Don't
    ask me about all the added features in the full version, I haven't
    tried any of them yet. I need to spend some time lurking the
    Acronis forum first.

    If you are among the financially challenged, and qualify for the
    free Seagate version, it will serve you well for restoring a
    crashed Windows without having to reinstall the OS and all your
    apps. The whole restore operation here takes under 30 minutes.

    My thanks again to all the nice folks who posted to this thread
    and helped me along.

    FadeAway.
     
  12. EASTER

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    I'm one of those where Acronis fell out of favor for me. Some was my being green to imaging programs and some was the older versions that used to drive me batty trying to image to of all things, CD-RW's/CD-R's.

    That was then, but this is now. I still shutter at the Acronis disaster posts spread all over their forum in a marathon fashion of complaints and failures, but with at least some users, including our very own ErikAlbert, TrueImage seems to breeze along just fine for those lucky souls.

    I'm at this moment downloading the Seagate DiscWizard with it's Acronis 10? i think embedded to it and really don't have any reservations on making full use of that particular feature so long as all goes as expected. And from the reports and glowing results i read so far, seems it's dependable enough that SeaGate bundled it to their good name, and thats good enough for this user.

    Regards EASTER
     
  13. FadeAway

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    Easter - helpful hint:

    I tried once restoring from the program on C:\, and it did not work,
    although I think it's supposed to. Create a recovery boot CD and
    restore from it. Works every time for me.
     
  14. GroverH

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    FadeAway,
    It's the added features which is causing grief for so many. Stick with the basics and you will have less problems.

    Easter,
    Some earlier postings detailed some of the limitations of the special version.
     
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