Is there a way to use the internet without Java?

Last I tried it (a very long time ago) it only needed Java for a specific functionality (macros?). Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

 

oh, it's (NoScript) pretty safe allright!
but it "breaks the Internet".

javascipts are used everywhere and are a necessities for things as simple as navigating a site sometimes.

the convenience factor and workflow take a major hit.
too much security.

 

Well, LibreOffice claims they need it for Base, OpenOffice uses it for more, iirc. Even Kingsoft and Lotus want it. Java really should just be gone now, not so much for security reasons though, as Flash arguably beats Java by a long shot in vulnerabilities and attacks.

 

Yes, but not the complete internet and some products.

 

I like to keep the functionality of javascript, and mitigate the vulnerabilities by using Gswall wich isolates your browser, and keeps it from changing important files and settings. Bufferzone also works like this if i remember correctly. Im sure others could explain it better than me though.

 

I used a Javascript whitelist for a while. I realized that there wasn't really any reason to.

 

Good point moontan, the mindset I maintain on it as well.

 

Just started using both NoScript with Firefox, and it does make browsing less convenient. I think I will just trust Sandboxie to do its job and take NoScript off.

 

Hey moontan, I see it differently. Some people say that NoScript "breaks"
things too much. Others, like myself, see NS as cleaning websites of
distractions that are being displayed on most sites today. That alone is a
good reason to use NS.

After comparing the positives and negatives about using it, deciding to
use it was a no brainer for me. NS is the main reason why I use Firefox.
If there was no NS, I probably be using another browser. Thats how
good I feel about NS.

Blocking Java and other plugins. I dont get much security out of that
as I dont use Java and Flash is the only plugin that I use but people
that use 12 plugins, Java and dont browse sandboxed, would benefit
even more than I do if they used NoScript.

A favorite site of mine is a Colombian website that about 2 years ago
it was hacked, and wherever I went on the site, NoScript displayed
alerts about clickjacking. My AV never said nothing. This lasted for a
couple of weeks until the site got cleaned. SBIE and NoScript kept me
clean and I was able to keep going there even though the site was
infected. Thats what NS and SBIE can do for us.

Bo

 

No, you're right. I use OpenOffice (3.3.0) and it says Java's only needed for Base, and 1 other thing (I forget what). The writer & draw are the only 2 things I've installed, and they both work fine without Java. It's possible it's needed for some functionality for one of those 2, but nothing that I do obviously.

I can see how NS would annoy most people, but I don't mind an extra mouse click once in awhile for the added security. I rarely have to use it, only if I want to log in somewhere or order something (Amazon/EBay), but usually I'm just lurking around the net. I would never recommend it to someone else though, because I know it'd just piss them off.

 

No problemo man. Common misconception. JavaScript comes integrated with the OS. You don't have to download anything, and any updates for it will come through Windows Updates. Hardly anybody needs just plain "Java", and I don't recommend installing it. And I only use the Flash plugin for Firefox, not the ActiveX version for IE. It's the only plugin I have for FF, actually.

 

Javascript comes integrated with the browser** that's where the compiler and interpreter are. Though the OS can have one as well.

 

That's a good idea. I've already uninstalled Java. I had two versions of Flash installed, so I removed both of them, then used Firefox to install Flash back on, so it is now a plug-in.

 

Hi justenough,

Websites typically use javascript (which is not java, or jdk). To view most websites all that is needed for a typical web surfer dude/dudette is to download and link in the latest JRE with your browser release for viewing most websites.

I too use NoScript and AdBlock Plus, etc. on a Linux platform.

For example, my Linux browser profile is located in my home directory under /home/ubuntu/.mozilla, and the links for jre_7 are contained in the directory /home/ubuntu/.mozilla/plugins, and are the following (for Linux):
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ubuntu ubuntu 58 2011-09-18 11:21 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /home/ubuntu/jre1.7.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so

Note: The above information is relative to using Firefox browser in Linux.

You can find out the latest JRE release and installation instructions for your platform OS at Java SE Downloads.

Note: Javascript does not come integrated into the browser as Hungry man inferred above, but the browser is capable of parsing it to render web pages which are written in javascript.

-- Tom

 

Writer, Draw, Impress, Base, and Calc are all installed.

 

This is what I see when I type about: in the address bar and hit enter with my Chrome browser:

Code:

Google Chrome 13.0.782.220 (Official Build 99552)
OS Linux
WebKit 535.1 (branches/chromium/782@93192)
[b]JavaScript V8 3.3.10.30[/b]
Flash 10.3 r183
User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/13.0.782.220 Safari/535.1
Command Line /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --flag-switches-begin --flag-switches-end
Executable Path /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome
Profile Path /home/user/.config/google-chrome/Default

 

The Letter Wizard needs java. But nobody uses it.

 

I uninstalled Java for good about 2 years ago, haven't needed it at all. I
also recommend people to get rid of it unless a must have program they
have requires Java. If a site they go to uses Java, I say forget about it.
Like you, Flash is the only plugin that I have installed for Firefox, for IE
I don't have Flash or any other Active X installed.

You did good justenough. I remember the first time that I put my eyes
and thoughts on Java, when I first learned that there was something
called Java. At that time my add/remove programs showed 16 Javas in
there and I had no idea what that was and what it was for or whether
it was part of the system or not. Those questions gave me the reason
to find out about it and after doing so I got rid of all the old versions
that I had, installing only the latest. After a while I realized that I had
no use for it and got rid of it for good.
I use Flash so I have Flash installed for my FF, no other plugin are on
board as I don't need any other. If you have other plugins installed,
maybe you should take a look at what they are and if you don't use
them, get rid of them.
As with Java, I also had a bunch of plugins that I never used, I got rid
of everyone of them and today, I only have flash. Nothing else.
Getting rid of Java and plugins that I do not need makes me safer and
allows me to cruise around the internet with nothing but SBIE and NS.

Bo

 

i totally agree.
the only way i would have Java in my machine is if i needed it for work or some really important stuff.

i got rid of it long ago.

 

edit: removed.

 

V8 is the engine that renders Javascript, not Javascript itself, which is a language used in coding websites, applications and so on. All browsers have rendering engines, otherwise nothing could read Javascript.