is built-in fw enough for a win xp terminal?

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  1. imdb

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    hi
    on my win 7 & win 8 terminals, i have no problems with windows built-in firewall.
    on my xp terminal, system specs are not as good as terminals with win 7 & 8.
    so it's a huge improvement for the terminal not to have a 3rd party firewall installed. in this case, would just an av & win xp built-in fw be enough, even for online banking, etc.?
    thanks
     
  2. Jarmo P

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    Terminal means as a PC?

    There are many people still using windows XP. About 27% PC coveradge, if is to believed by the statistics from my latest Avast free install. XP is still updated from microsoft.

    The firewall is not so strong and can be put down by malware quite easy. If your computer is clean, why not, I would use it anyways if none better computer. And if you are especially behind a router. Using safe surfing, maybe under coverage of Sandboxie free to avoid getting infected if not so safe surfing lol.

    These days Google Chrome is maybe the safest browser for you, with its own sandbox.

    Just my thoughts. I used to use many 3rd part firewalls on my XP times, but they are now all gone to history. And I wont continue to advise you any about those. I know some I would use, just not recommending any to you.
     
  3. Brummelchen

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    xp firewall is crap cause built in afterwards. drop it and get a decent firewall. better drop xp next time cause EOL is april 2014, the near end.
     
  4. imdb

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    thanks for the reply.
     
  5. imdb

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    thanks. will do get a 3rd party soon.
    as for the ditching xp recommendation, well it's only my older pc that has xp on it. the rest have win 7 & 8.
    so i'll keep it till the end of life deadline.
     
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    Crap in what way?? For inbound filtering of packets, it's only intended purpose, it's excellent.
     
  7. aztony

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    Definitely, and beyond. It won't be supported by M$ come April, but so what? Get an outstanding firewall like Privatefirewall or Online Armor + a comparable AV and XP will truck on as long as the rig holds up.
     
  8. The Red Moon

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    How is privatefirewall outstanding?
     
  9. imdb

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    :thumb:
     
  10. Kerodo

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    Exactly.. The more complicated the firewall, the more problems and issues you'll have. Win Firewall is fine for inbound. Or a router, take your pick. :)
     
  11. imdb

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    aamof, i got them both.
     
  12. Brummelchen

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    inbound filtering is futile when using a router.

    for the rest pls read here
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_firewalls

    at least worsest...

    as it would be such simple. :rolleyes: there is no mechanism to protect windows against security holes made by design. there are tools in hackers drawer waiting to get used against those vulnerable systems - 1000s of zombies after 4'14
     
  13. aztony

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    There are millions of zombie computers out there now under the control of bot-masters. Let's face it there are probably more clueless users out there than there those that are savvy and security conscious. On this very site are members who admitted to no longer doing Windows updates, but are free of infection, and intrusion, with the appropriate steps they've taken to protect their systems.
     
  14. Brummelchen

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    we will see in may 2014 when the next critical patches for IE8 will become available.
     
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    XP users, I'm one of them, have other options besides IE8. On my XP pc I use Opera & Firefox. Chrome is also a replacement option, although I personally don't care for it.
     
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    If you're on stuck XP, and your bank is okay with Linux, it might be a good idea to have a Linux live medium specifically for banking and financial stuff.
     
  17. IvoShoen

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    On one of my XP machines I am using the built in firewall along with SpyShelter and Avast 2014, all behind a stealthed router.
     
  18. hogndog

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    I threw Privatefirewall on this ole XP the other day and am quite pleased with it, i looked around for a test video to see if they had done any, this is what i found.. :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwMlK2e546o
     
  19. Kerodo

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    That's all you need for inbound.... for outbound control, don't bother. It's futile...
     
  20. imdb

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    thanks guys.
     
  21. Brummelchen

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    ofc:rolleyes:
    you forgot the tons of programs which use triton for its built-in browsing or gui (including internet explorer itself is only a frontend). you can not use chrome or firefox (or maxthon, avant ...) for that. the problem still resists, and people think they are save :thumbd:
     
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    After several weeks of research, and listening/weighing the opinions/options offered by many speaking to the issue, I have no come to believe that you maybe quite right. Perhaps no 3rd party security software can mitigate the potential vulnerabilities that will likely surface with its EOS. Anyway, since the PC in question was bought in '04 and is very low resource, 1GB max RAM, it's not worth the cost of an upgrade to Win 7. It runs great, so I've fortified it as best I can, and we'll see how it goes at the end time. Really do appreciate your insights.
     
  23. CoolWebSearch

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    Reality is one thing, hypothesis is entirely another thing. If this was the case the way you are saying I should have been infected and my protection should have been compromised million times already, but the truth is I was never infected and my computer security with windows xp was never compromised in these 10 years!
    And I'm using the simpliest security options: Edimax router with spi firewall on maximum level with windows xp firewall on maximum level as well, the only thing I have are SBIE with Firefox with NoScipt and Adblock Edge (and Google Chrome from time to time) and MCShield.
     
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  24. SnowFlakes

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    I've used xp-firewall for 10 years and i never had any hacker into my pc or any other issue, so yes xp-firewall is enough.
    Firewall will just make your pc run slower but it will not make your pc more protected then with xp-firewall.
     
  25. CoolWebSearch

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    Exactly my point.
     
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