IronKey Reviews

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by justwonderingby, Jul 10, 2008.

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  1. justwonderingby

    justwonderingby Registered Member

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    Hi,

    Anyone tried IronKey? I'm no expert, but looks pretty good to me. But I wonder whether their secure internet service is any good...

    -JWB
     
  2. Taliscicero

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    Honestly, Get a £10-£15 Flashstick Encrypt it with Truecrypt And Download a Portable version of TOR and you pretty mutch have what they are offering short of a Self Destruct button. And you will not need that because anyone that has an Electron-Microscope and LOTS of time woudl probably not care what you have on your flashstick ^^

    Its basicly what i'm useing now.

    But to arnser your original question, i am pretty sure they use TOR nodes Or Similar.

    ty.
     
  3. fuzzylogic

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    the actual netowrk is a PRIVATE TOR network, meaning that the network is not public/run by volunteers. meaning you don't have to worry about people doing traffic anlysis, injecting code, etc. unless you don't trust the company itself. it has recieved lots of positives and has been certificated with military standards. its far more secure than a standard flash drive and its aimed at people whom what a hardware encryption and not a software solution. i'd buy one if they weren't so expensive.
     
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    And you will not need that because anyone that has an Electron-Microscope and LOTS of time...

    Farfetched theory from Peter Gutmann and probably nothing more than myth. Nobody can claim to ever having actually done it! In fact, a single-wipe renders data unrecoverable even by professional data recovery firms (by their own admission). What about the NSA? Who knows - but if they've ever used this method - it's still a secret.
     
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    The US just passed another law making illegal spying legal. They can spy on anyone, anywhere in the US, for any reason. And according to Mark Klein they have been literally sucking everyone's personal info out of the net for some time now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBapXsLcro Now if they are so interested in collecting all of the regular "run of the mill" data from US citizens (as well as all of the business and political data), then why would anyone expect them to skip a US or UK anonymity service? The so-called privacy/anonymity service will have a gag order slapped on them so fast that their heads will spin around like Linda Blair.:p And they have absolutely no choice in the matter as to whether they want to comply. And if they go public they will go to prison, right?

    So correct me if I am wrong but using this kind of service is like paying someone your hard earned money to collect all of your data to be stored by the government, just so they can have it. I can have them collect all of my data for free with a much faster connection.
     
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    A more likely scenario would be the government running their own privacy/anonymity service as a means of collecting data.

    About as IronKey's secure internet service; a private tor network may be faster than the public tor network, but you're putting all your trust in a single entity. A single court order (or a national security letter) could expose the whole ball of wax.
     
  9. Someone

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    Hi

    Well couldn't you say the same for Xerobank and every other private company?
     
  10. Taliscicero

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    Well, the only way i know to stop that, Is buying your VPN / Encryption services From the Middle east.

    But the way America is going it wont be long until the middle east are " Liberated " also.
     
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    Exactly. And it actually looks as though they have been collecting all of this data in the US without any security letters or authorization at all.
     
  12. caspian

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    No because Xerobank is not a US company. They are not bound by US law. And this may not mean much to you, but the fact that Steve is associated with some well known human rights activists carries a lot of weight and respect with me. And if I am not mistaken, Cult of the Dead Cow and Hacktivismo members have also done some work for the Electronic Freedom Foundation, who I am also very impressed with.
     
  13. fuzzylogic

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    The ironkey network is also has servers outside the US, several in the netherlands and others i'm not sure where (have a look in their forums).

    i wouldn't put too much trust in xerobank either, Steve is still a US citizen (i'm guessing by living in Texas, US) and could be tried as a US citizen, even through his business is registered in Pamana. Also the fact is we have very little information on whom and what runs xerobank, all we know is steve is the front man, kyle does some software and others seem to be more associates then close team members. i'm also sick and tied of every thread being another xerobank thread and steve being too lazy to have his own support forum.

    anyway ironkey by far a good reputation and have an open dialogue with its clients. wether or not you trust it is up to you, you will find some pretty good articles on it, have a google of it.
     
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    Maybe its time to have WSF create a dedicated area to XeroBank, based alone on the copious quantities of postings that are on the board. I'll admit I too am sometimes annoyed by the fact that XeroBank appears to be every other posting in some areas.

    As to the suggestion of buying a cheap usb key and using truecrypt. That is a great idea, as long as you will either always have administrative rights on the computer that you are using it on, OR have access to have TrueCrypt installed on the machine you don't have admin rights on. IronKey doesn't have that limitation. And its waterproof!
     
  15. justwonderingby

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    Thanks everyone for your responses. I decided to buy an IronKey and received it yesterday because I needed a secure USB stick for work that was easy to use. So far, I have to say, that I'm pleased with it. Looks and feels solid; performs flawlessly. Can't say much for the secure internet feature - other than it works, but doesn't seems to come with an Tor Button or Privoxy.
     
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    Hi

    Well how do you know that Xerobank really isn't a front for data collection by an intelligence agency (it doesn't have to be US)?

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  17. caspian

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    None of us "know" anything, but would you suspect the Electronic Freedom Foundation of being a "front" for an intelligence agency"? I am just making my best guess. However, I will tell you that I would be *VERY* upset if I found out that I was paying someone to do just the opposite of what I was paying them to do. But I don't believe that I am wrong, obviously, or I would not be using it.
     
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    No that's not what I meant. I meant there is a possibility that Xerobank COULD be actually an intelligence agency and pretend to advocate privacy. I know, very unlikely. But it's a possibility. I just think "paying someone your hard earned money to collect all of your data to be stored by the government" is a bit extreme, IMHO it's more complicated than that.
     
  19. caspian

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    I am not sure what you mean. Why do you think that statement is extreme?
     
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    Folks,

    We have numerous ongoing threads concerning Xerobank. This thread concerns IronKey Reviews and any other like service is off topic.


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    off topic post concerning TrueCrypt removed. As stated, this thread concerns IronKey Reviews with no opening for misinterpretation.
     
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    Hi

    Sorry. I'll stop talking about it.
     
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