iPhantom - Maybe all you need for security.

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  1. R2D2

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    This is a "first of its kind." A small hardware device that connects to your PC along with your broadband modem and wireless router to allow anonymous surfing. Also provides the following (from website below):

    "The iPhantom™ offers high-end Gateway Antivirus protection (GAV), Gateway Spyware and Adware prevention, Firewall with deep Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI), Intrusion Prevention Service (IPS), Internet data and Identity Protection using strong AES encryption."

    Check it out here: http://www.iphantom.com/iPhantomProduct.html
    Watch the demonstration, read the FAQ and other info there.
    Looks interesting :blink:

    Thought I'd share this info :D
    Any experiences with it?

    Jeff
     
  2. Notok

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    This looks awesome, I might have to get one :D

    I don't know that I'd say it's the only thing you need, however. From the website:

     
  3. Infinity

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    This looks good.

    I've read their eula and they write that when they're inforced by law they'll give personal data (maybe logs too?) ... anyway I think this is normal activity I guess.

    the product looks good especialy cause it's hardware. I wonder how their antispyware/antivirus looks like ...
     
  4. hollywoodpc

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    iPhantom™ Residential Monthly $12.95
    iPhantom™ Residential Yearly $119.95
    iPhantom™ Business Monthly $14.95
    iPhantom™ Business Yearly $149.95

    OUCH !!!
    Also looks like Arcavir Av and not quite sure about the AS . Guessing CounterSpy but , cannot be sure .
     
  5. trickyricky

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    That looks very good indeed. If it's marketed right it should catch on big-time since it seems to address many security concerns around at the moment without being seriously expensive or complicated.

    Thanks for the info - a useful find.
     
  6. R2D2

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    Yes, that was also my concern. The company, Phantom Technologies, might release your personel info and logs to a third party by law but that could be for good reasons for law enforcement and I guess also that this is normal procedure. That's something to find out. (We need a cyber law specialist on this forum :) )

    The company seems reliable and trustworthy. (Just check w/ the BBB or Chamber of Commerce if unsure, or ask the company if a law enforcement agent ever needed that kind of info from them.) I'd be too scared to ask :gack:

    Thanks Notok for pointing out that info I missed from their website for reasons to keep your software security products for layered protection. From their website, "Gateway-level protection together with the use of desktop Antivirus and AntiSpyware applications, provide the ultimate tiered solution to preventing and controlling malware infections on your computer and network."

    I know I'd keep mine. ;)
     
  7. Infinity

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    auch indeed...:blink:
     
  8. R2D2

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    Yeah, subscripton is a bit $$$ for me too :eek:

    But, you're also paying for:

    * AntiVirus definition updates
    * Spyware/Adware definition updates
    * Firewall and Intrusion Protection Service
    * Unlimited anonymous and secure Internet Identity Protection
    * Firmware updates and feature enhancements
    * Product support

    To also take into consideration, using an anonymous proxy service (some w/ subscription cost also) with its software can really slow down your internet but according to the website under their FAQ:

    Q. Will the iPhantom™ slow down my computer?
    No. The iPhantom™ was designed as a stand-alone device that operates outside of your computer. With advanced processing done in hardware, the iPhantom™ will not slow down your computer like software can.

    Jeff
     
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    It doesn't use your PC's processing power but I would imagine that there is a certain amount of overhead involved since each packet is encrypted and then routed to Phantom's servers for decryption. That could possibly affect the snappiness of web browsing.
     
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    Outpost Pro $ 19.95 renew3al
    Online Armour $ 29.95
    NOD32 $39.00 ( $ 23.00 renewal )
    Spyware Doctor $ 19.95
    About the same cost . Add $ 10.00 for the anonymous proxy service . It comes out about even . Go ahead . I prefer my programs to be seperate and configurable . Plus , it depends on the services . Example : AV is Arcavir . Is that fine with you as your only AV ? So be it . Their site even says to basically keep using what you have WITH this product . Does that not double your cost of what you are using now ? Plus , does the product cost $ 89.95 and THEN you add a subscription ? Ouch again . I like what I have and feel very secure . The price is WAYYYY too high regardless of what you might think . That is an opinion of course . But , what a waste .
     
  12. c3po

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    Looks too expensive for me. But thanks for posting about it D2. All you need to do now is fix that dang hyperdrive on the millennium falcon before the nearest Star Destroyer pulls us in with their tractor beam! ;)
     
  13. mehsih

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    meh, they can f' off. i use common sence. if it was free/open source than maybe but meh. "commen sence" is the only security.u need.
     
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    C3PO, I'll get right to it! ;)
     
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    Well, one could add a free antivirus like AVG or AntiVir and free anti-spyware like Spybot or Ad-Aware to their computer along with the iPhantom to help keep cost down a bit. The product is $89.95 PLUS subscription = $209.90:gack: during your first year for anonymous internet connection likely without much connection slowdown as compared to using other proxy services. Also, the cost includes its own updates for its other security features too. Yet, I'd consider it as an extra defense layer but I would have to skip a few meals for it :(
     
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    It never ceases to amaze me what people will buy . What a rip . Sad indeed . I think most of the folks here will agree that what they have is good enough . Layers are good but , I have many at a lot less cost than $ 209 up front . lol . What made sense was marketing it ( the device ) with the features for a one time charge of $ 89.00 . Plausible but , not likely many takers . When you find it is subscription based , no way ! Deal breaker ! Most people know about the proggies to choose from and this , IMHO , is outrageous . :blink:
    Good luck with it and it was nice to learn about another security program .
    May I state again ? OUCHHHHHHH !!!
     
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    I'd say it's really about standard pricing for the subscription if you figure $30 each for the AV, AS, packet inspection, and anonymous proxy with encryption. Expensive, yes, but not entirely outrageous. If you have multiple systems on a network, then it's actually quite reasonable. I will have 5+ computers here in very short order, $112 divided by 5 = $22.40 for each system, that's not bad at all :) I will agree, however, that if I only had one system, the price would be a little harder to justify with all the software that I already have.

    For the unit itself, comparable corporate products are a whole lot more expensive, and can run up into the thousands.

    When did it become unreasonable to charge a yearly fee for antivirus sigs, antispyware sigs, and anonymous proxy?
     
  18. hollywoodpc

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    Good ole Notok . At it again I see .
    You argue way too much ! Not unreasonable for you . Unreasonable for people that use what they know works and are comfortable . The unit itself is fine for the price . It is fine if used on multiple systems IF it will NOT slow you down . But , to charge for a piece of equipment that you must subscribe to , to keep it working is unreasonable . If you ever decided to change , you lost the upfront money on the unit .
    Hey Notok . An idea . Why not talk about how to stay away from this as there is no supported info on whether it is good or not . You know . Like with pcIP . I mean hey . Nothing to support that it works so , it must stink .
    Bottom line is , use it if you wish . I did not come here to play with you . I will buy my own AV , firewall , AS , and , if I please , a proxy . ( No need really ) . That is all . I broke it down earlier . I wonder how many would dump what they use to only use this . I doubt that many would . In fact , I believe many will see this the way I do . Now , give the unit away WITH a paid subscription , you may not be out anything . But , based on what I saw , I do not believe you are getting the best of the bunch when it comes to the AV , firewall , and AS . You will always be out the upfront cost of the unit . Take it together . Good idea . Bad start . Only an opinion . When you buy it , PLEASE let us all know how wonderful it is . I will surely take it to the bank !:cool:
    By the way ....They even say to basically keep your AV AND AS programs to use in tandem with theirs . Hmmmm . Sounds like more cost Notok . Help us out please . Tell us how this is reasonable . To pay them a fee to give me two programs that I already use . If this is the case , IT IS TOO MUCH MONEY . For me anyway because do not throw mine away . Maybe I should buy 2 licenses of NOD and 2 of Spyware Doctor for one computer . Makes sense huh ? I agree that it is a noble concept . I just think making you pay for a unit you may not use after a short period of time is wrong . Most companies will offer you , the consumer , their hardware in order , or exchange if you will , for paying a subscription to use the service . That is the point here . Taking these two things together makes it outrageous to me . It is not like having 2 or 3 cable companies to choose from and use their hardware to pay for the service . There are SO many AV , firewall , and AS soloutions out there that it makes their hardware charge a deal breaker for me . You do not approve of Internet Security Associates way of doing business . I never tried to argue you down . Only let people know it was a quality product . Now you want to argue what I said was ONLY MY OPINION . Get over it . There are people that will buy into this . Great . That makes the world go around . I will not be one of them . That is me . I stated it before . Do me a favor , and everyone else ,.... stop trying to play devils advocate all the time . I am here to try to help . Just leave me alone from here on out as I have enjoyed you enough .
     
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    I don't like arguing either, which is why I stopped responding to DA in the pcIP thread. I was actually hoping for a discussion, it's much easier to reach mutual understandings that way. That's why I'm here, anyway, I can't speak for anyone else. :)
     
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