Introducing, The New Prevx Edge.

Discussion in 'Prevx Releases' started by trjam, Nov 13, 2008.

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  1. Saraceno

    Saraceno Registered Member

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    Keep in mind, with different setups, not every program will work. Might require some patience to get things to work. (eg. had problems getting programs to work with ThreatFire, but after some time, these were sorted out by developers)

    ***Edit - Just installed the latest firefox. Crashed on me and now refuses to load (even after killing off all processes)! :p
     
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  2. Max Zorin

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    Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but, but could you use Prevx Edge as your only protection - eg, is is effectively an AV, AM and HIPS all in one?
     
  3. Nunes

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    Sorry EraserHW didn't know that you were not inside with last posts of PrevxHelp yesterday.

    I sent the PM to PrevxHelp not to you. I make some confusion with both of you guys.
     
  4. Franklin

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    At the moment in it's devolpment I would say yes as it seems to be far better than traditional blacklist AV scanners.

    But I would still employ MalwareByte's Antimalware and Superantispyware as second/third opinions as on demand?
     
  5. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    this forum is biased!
    personally, im glad to finally get back to prevx without using a beta and turning off uac.

    loving the new version, and finally back to my preferred setup of drweb and prevx.
     
  6. vijayind

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    Hi, Have been trying out PrevX Edge .... And I must say the detection is quite good. Esp, since most test tools are also labeled virus. Which are not are caught in realtime. Plus it caught everything my limited malware sample set, no FP till now !!!

    But the best part is the low scan time and resource usage. Its almost perfect for my file servers.... almost.
    I have 2 doubts in that regard:
    1) If I understand correctly, Prevx uses its online community database to check if a file is malicious. But in my network, some nodes (like file servers) are isolated from internet. So is there a way to have a local db ? or any other solution ??
    2) Has anyone tested this with WINE on Linux ? I want to run it on my Samba file server, but since its our backbone I don't want to risk it now. I don't have linux on me, right now at home (sad :(). So thanks to anyone who might have tested this.

    Just to clarify, I have both Windows and Linux file servers.
     
  7. ruinebabine

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    As a test, and using SSM as an example tool, I see that I can easily kill all Prevx Edge's processes & stop pxark driver, and desable it to autostarting with windows.

    It doesn't make any difference if its self-protection option is switched ON or OFF.

    EDIT: I am using Px Edge fully activated (with the 1-week key provided) if it can help.
     
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  8. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    i would use prevx on its own, but seeing as im such as drweb fanboi lol, and prevx states it can be used in conjunction with others, ive always used both, and while it may add a few seconds to boot, general system performance is the same. :)
     
  9. Dark Shadow

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    Hi I am Dave and I come to admit I am a powerless software whore and the temptation of this thread and the up coming new drweb has drawn me back to the software whore club.So I kicked the linux to the curb for the time being and through on vista once again.God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can Not change and to accept the things I can, My OS and software.
     
  10. Criss

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    Who did u get the 1-week key?
    i also wan. :D
     
  11. PrevxHelp

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    Hello,
    When you uninstall it doesn't keep your overrides, however, I did correct your false positives, so, if you scan again they shouldn't be found.

    We're investigating a possible incompatibility with NIS 2009, but your crash (at offset 0x00000000) is not helpful :) Essentially says it crashes "nowhere" :D

    We're going to be working on a new version which corrects some issues - right now, please disable self protection as there is an incompatibility between it and the protection.
     
  12. PrevxHelp

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    Right now, self protection has a flaw which is why we've had it disabled by default. Also, self protection can be incompatible with other AV solutions, so, we recommend not using it if you have another AV which doesn't allow you to turn off their self protection.

    Scanning automatically after bootup does have a threshold and will only scan depending on a handful of metrics including system load and time of the last scan.
     
  13. PrevxHelp

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    Hello,
    It seems that there may be an incompatibility or at least a bit of an inconsistency with these programs installed and Edge running. We will run some tests and let you know what we find :)
     
  14. PrevxHelp

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    All of Prevx 2's protection is implemented into Edge, however, some of the more techie features like being able to block specific behaviors are not. Edge automates a lot of the decision making to keep the user experience simple.

    Hope that helps clear it up :)
     
  15. cp4eva

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    I installed it on my XP SP3 machine that had PC Tools FW and Threatfire on it and upon installation, the PC restarted on it's on and all of my FW settings were lost.
     
  16. PrevxHelp

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    Not a stupid question at all :) You can use Edge as your only protection (as it has AV/AM/HIPS/Heuristics combined) and you can also use it in a layered defense approach if you want.

    Edge is compatible with all other AVs (except for minor potential glitches posted by a couple users here :)) and will work on top of them, adding extra protection.
     
  17. PrevxHelp

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    I'm afraid your doubts may be fundamental problems.

    1) It does require internet access, however, you can use CSI Enterprise which centralizes the scanning on one computer in your network. I believe that would be a better approach for you. We are working on "Edge Enterprise" but it is going to take a bit to get everything fully implemented.

    2) We have not tested on WINE, but CSI may work better than Edge under WINE as Edge runs primarily from a system driver, which WINE won't emulate properly.

    Please let me know if you do have problems with CSI on WINE (if you try it) as we may be able to work around them by using less of the Windows API.
     
  18. PrevxHelp

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    Not quite sure what would cause firewall settings to be lost.... Edge doesn't have any firewall components and its driver doesn't integrate anywhere that a firewall would integrate.

    Could you give us some more information as to what was lost?
     
  19. PrevxHelp

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    Hello,
    SSM contains hundreds of system hooks which will most likely undo Edge's self protection when installed. Also, the self protection option is currently broken so, please wait before testing as we need to repair it :D
     
  20. jmonge

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    prevx people test wine,becarefull dont get drunk:D
     
  21. trjam

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    congrats PrevxHelp. I see your name is now that beautiful Wilders orange.;)
     
  22. Dark Shadow

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    I am running Prevx Edge along side Online Armour,Thus far it seems to be getting along.Question does Prevx have actual Hips or Behavior blocker in the likes of Threatfire or mamutu.I can Disable Hips in OA but then I could not run my browsers in Safer Mode.So is it redundent to have OA Hips and Prevx.
     
  23. PrevxHelp

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    I have only briefly used those products, and they do seem to have some additional functionality over what Edge provides, if you are a technical enough user to understand the prompts which they say when certain behaviors are performed.

    As they are free (correct me if I'm wrong :D), I don't see any reason why not to use them. If they do get along fine for you, it is always worth having a multi-layer security approach. I know a number of our users do use Online Armour with Edge and we have not seen any problems.
     
  24. Dark Shadow

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    Thanks for the fast response and agree the multilayer. I do not see any conflicks yet but any findings I will post back.Thanks again
     
  25. C.S.J

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    hey guys, thought id try prevx edge with some new malware i have recieved recently, all types included.

    these samples tested, are from aug-nov 2008, so all within the past few months, and have only just been downloaded to my system.

    160 detected, 157 remaining, so roughly a 50% detection rate.

    however, this is purely on the scan-alone, and none of the behaviour-based technologys have YET to be tested on the undetected samples.

    if prevx wish to recieve the ones it missed (before i try the behaviour based detections), id be happy to help.

    bored, so playing :)


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    i do prefer this version, to my old 2.0, and currently enjoying using it.
     
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