Introducing, The New Prevx Edge.

Discussion in 'Prevx Releases' started by trjam, Nov 13, 2008.

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  1. vijayind

    vijayind Registered Member

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    Thanks for the info. Since powerful HIPS for Vista are not abundant, I just wanted to know know how much of Prevx 2.0 HIPS is encapsulated in Edge 3.0.
     
  2. n8chavez

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    Sorry guys if this is redundant but I need to have a few things answered if you wouldn't mind.

    1. Does Edge expire? There have been posts about this here and the answer seems to have been no. But the license duration on the site says '1 year. It sure would be nice is Edge adopted the Malwarebytes approach with MBAM; a one-time fee.

    2. How long is a standard scan supposed to take (roughly)? I scanned everything in 50 seconds. How can something be thorough and yet that fast? NOD32 2.x was good and fast but this is crazy fast.

    Also, as a side note, Edge does pass all ATP termination attempts.
     
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  3. Saraceno

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    n8chavez, prevx edge can run unlimited as a 'detection' only product, allowing you to scan and be alerted to any suspect files.

    If you pay for a one year licence however, prevx edge will detect and block/remove (cleanup) all items.

    One licence is $29.95 for a year.
    Two licences are $40.15 for a year and so on.
    (there is lower renewal fee which will be worked out soon)

    Regarding the lifetime licence idea, I've found smaller companies offer this incentive but the larger more well-known companies might not view the incentive as worthwhile in providing needed funds (staff, development, customer service costs) for the long-term.

    For example, I was able to contact a prevx support person, and within minutes I was communicating live with a staff member, who then analysed my setup, and worked away (while I watched - great job they did too) on my computer until the problem was resolved.

    This kind of service is beneficial for the average joe or mum and dad who have paid for a licence and are experiencing computer problems, such as possible malicious activity.

    For a high level of service, and to continue providing that service, personally, I think a yearly fee (for any program) is acceptable. :)
     
  4. Cretemonster

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    Two entirely different concepts in program alone,no way to compare.

    The idea itself is not feesable to any company that likes housing and food. ;)
     
  5. Espresso

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    Avafind (does not index file contents). I also have Acronis TrueImage 2009 and MSTDefrag installed.

    I keep the task manager minimized to my tray so I can view cpu usage and there was no increased cpu usage during this period of unresponsiveness.
     
  6. Nett0pp

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    It is certanly higher,and m0re advanced anti malware progS* 0ut there!
    Look towards the Dark Side...

    Alpha Draconia

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  7. sukarof

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    Nice to see Prevx! I had the Prevx2 betas for a long time (until I got Vista and wanted to use UAC) and it was a great non intrusive app.
    Looking forward to the Vista 64bit version.
     
  8. Max Zorin

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    Could someone let me know if there is any real need / benefit in raising the heuristic level from standard? If the level is raised, what impact / slowdown results?

    So far, running very smoothly alongside Avira Pro and A-squared 4.

    MZ
     
  9. trjam

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    as with all, your chances are greater for FPs. I have mine set to the max becaue it is all I use and want to find any FPs so PH can fix them. With your current setup, leave it where it is.
     
  10. EraserHW

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    Hello,

    1) Edge doesn't expire in the trial mode. It's a time-unlimited version which does only detect but it doesn't block infections. If you buy your Edge license, your Edge is able to detect, block and cleanup the infections. The license expires after 1 year, after that your Edge comes back to a time-unlimited trial version.

    On a side note: these informations could change, because we're working on some idea about licensing scheme.

    2) Prevx Edge's standard scan is a high-tuned scan that allow you to have a complete look at your pc's status usually in a less than a minute or two. Standard scan doesn't scan whole PC, but it's covering all the most important zones of the hard disk, registry, processes in an advanced cross-view so that it's able to get a complete view of the PC and it's able to get rid of all infections - if present.

    About ATP, during Edge development we've investigated a lot about every way our software could have been terminated and we've implemented a number of self-defence techniques.
     
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  11. EraserHW

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    Of course raising the heuristic level will improve heuristic detection, but there are higher chances to get false positives. While during our internal tests we've not encountered any problem even with heuristic set at the maximum level, we've tuned the engine so that at standard level it's giving the better performance with a minimum number of false positives.

    No, if you increase heuristic level you shouldn't get any major slowdown on your PC :)
     
  12. EraserHW

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    Sure, we are always monitoring dark side :) That's our job :)
     
  13. GES/POR

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    What you think of this licensing scheme: 1 year (full price ofc), 2 years (small discount), 3 years (bigger discount), Premium (much bigger discount,5 years,first acces to beta's), VIP (Lifetime license, first acces to beta's) - somethingh like this would be really cool although this is just a rough idea wich could be done better.
     
  14. Nett0pp

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    I DO hope U D0 th@t. Never forget the GREY ZIDE !

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    Alpha-Draconia
     
  15. EraserHW

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    We'll take care of every idea you all are giving us :)

    From what I know, atm some major licensing scheme changes are already scheduled.

    Thank you all :)

    Marco
     
  16. Hugger

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    Booted pc just now.
    Edge was running last night.
    Now, no.
    Started Edge by doing another scan.
    Enabled protection monitoring. Was told to reboot. Did.
    Wound up with 2 Edges running then one went away and the remaining Edge was not monitoring. Enabled monitoring, was told to reboot.
    Good bye, Edge.
    Hugger
     
  17. Franklin

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    Well thank goodness for that!!:oops:

    I would cry my eyes out if it deleted all my lovely malware samples.:D

    Actually when you think about it, this app could be a bit too dangerous if run in paid mode and you lose all ya malware samples, eh. LOL
     
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  18. raven211

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    Hmm... about that. Looking through Edge's "Basic Settings", there's a self-protection option, though it's off by default and clearly says that it's optional. How does it make a difference and does Edge still have some sort of self-defence even if this option is off?

    Also a little curious why "Last Scan" says 14 hours ago when I've the software set to default settings, which includes scheduler ticking "Scan automatically after bootup". Is there some threshold like ignoring this option till a number of days without scanning has passed?
     
  19. Saraceno

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    Hugger, were you running it with DefenseWall and ThreatFire on? Might be some sort of conflict. One of the guys from prevx should be able to help you out.
     
  20. Nunes

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    Today, this morning when booting, Prevx Edge crashed.

    Faulting application prevx.exe, version 3.0.0.172, faulting module , version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00000000.

    Even running it again the service seems to be active but no icon in the tray.

    I think Edge has bugs that make it somehow instable.

    I also put in override some of the applications it detected as FP's
     
  21. EraserHW

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    Hello,

    well, as you could read, that's not a common behavior. Could you please privately contact me or PrevxHelp writing what configuration do you have on your PC and eventually security software installed?

    Thank you for your support :)
     
  22. EraserHW

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    Hello :)

    Read my previous post :) The same for you :)

    About false positives: could you please send me (or to PrevxHelp) an Edge log (if you have it before it crashed) or the samples wrongly detected?

    Thank you for you support :)
     
  23. EraserHW

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    :D

    Well, even if it would be more than good seeing Edge removing all the samples you've (that would mean Prevx Edge is working well and is detecting everything :D), in paid mode you can choose if automatically remove blocked files or just block them from execution :)
     
  24. Nunes

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    I sent you privately the log yesterday and also the sample of the file you think is malicious to the mail address you sent me.

    Meanwhile I discovered that Prevx didn't kept my overrrides and when I tried to do it again it crashed.

    I also wrote here yesterday that I have NIS 2009 in a Windows XP SP3
     
  25. EraserHW

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    Oh sorry, I didn't see that o_O Maybe PrevxHelp was handling your problem?

    If so, he'll be online in a bit :)
     
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