Introducing, The New Prevx Edge.

Discussion in 'Prevx Releases' started by trjam, Nov 13, 2008.

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  1. bellgamin

    bellgamin Very Frequent Poster

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    "Plenty" you say? Have you taken a poll?

    {TR, I have told you a million times -- "Do not exaggerate!" :cool:}
     
  2. andyman35

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    You should get together with Melih at Comodo,he's been saying exactly the same thing for a while.Perhaps between you it'd be possible to create a more realistic testing method.
     
  3. bellgamin

    bellgamin Very Frequent Poster

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    Comodo's firewall & HIPS are excellent but its AV is still second tier. Effective AVs test well & remain silent. Those testing poorly ask for "more realistic" tests.

    By the way -- I do not consider PCWelt's anecdotal test report of Edge to be unfavorable. Equivocal, yes -- but not unfavorable.
     
  4. andyman35

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    In fairness the upcoming new version of CIS should see a huge improvement in the AV performance.As for testing though,surely they should mirror what users will actually face in the real world,rather than an artificial scenario?
     
  5. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    Joe, love the post.

    You should dig just a little deeper, it won't take you very long to find out just what these Andreas tests are, in short they are a piece of ****,

    ... Be warned though, no matter what you say, many people take those results as gospel, I hope, like some companys you have the balls to speak the truth, rather than ignore it, even if future results are positive for you.
     
  6. Mosqu

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    I wouldn't have expected such a badly researched article at that place.

    Some mistakes in short:

    - The database does not depend on users' opinions, but on automated analysis.

    - The on-demand scanner is intended to find active infections rather than passive malicious files.

    - The performance of on-demand scanning says not much about the real-time protection capabilities, that are not based on on-access scanning, but behavior monitoring.

    - If the user decides to delete a file, it is not a malicious action.
     
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  7. trjam

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    Right now, still the best out there for protection and ease of use.

    Keep in mind folks, this isnt the Plug and Play forum at Wilders.;)
     
  8. Criss

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    I have juz done a scan with avira and it have found a malware with one of the prevx file.

    Anyone here can confirm is this a false postive?? i have sent the sample to avira.

    Here's the log :

     
  9. PrevxHelp

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    Hello,
    This isn't exactly a false positive. That file houses our quarantine and we use a simplistic encoding over the infected files just to disable them but some AVs will still read the file and decrypt it.

    For now, you may want to add that file to the ignore list of Avira (and maybe Kaspersky which also seems to find the file depending on the infection).

    We will be making a change in the next release which should prevent the AVs from finding it.
     
  10. denniz

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    Possible false positive:

    Location: C:\Windows\WindowsMobile\sv-SE\BakRestr.dll.mui
    OS: Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-bit Dutch
    Prevx Edge: version v3.0.0.199
    Category: Malicious Software
    Heuristics: High

    Virus Total Result:
    File BakRestr.dll.mui received on 01.13.2009 20:45:17 (CET)
    Current status: finished
    Result: 1/38 (2.64%) Prevx1 V2 2009.01.13 Malicious Software

    prevx1.jpg
     
  11. PrevxHelp

    PrevxHelp Former Prevx Moderator

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    Hello,
    Thank you for the report - the file is definitely a false positive (just a somewhat obscure version it looks like).

    Fixed :) Please let me know if you have any further problems!
     
  12. denniz

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    Your support absolutely amazes me, very quick and very courtious! :cool:

    I rescanned, and all is good now, thx! :thumb:
     
  13. jmonge

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    i am running a 29 day trial and i want to know what kind of technology prevex is suning for it's software?is it hips?behabiour blocker?or what?thanks
     
  14. PrevxHelp

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    Edge combines behavioral analysis with whitelisting, blacklisting, signature analysis, heuristics, and a view of all of the programs in the Prevx community to make its determinations. It's a combination of a lot of technologies :)
     
  15. sded

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    Has anyone got Prevx Edge working successfully with Online Armor 3 under Vista? There seem to be significant conflicts, resulting in CPU hangs, OA not initializing properly, Program Guard vanishing, strange OA Icon behavior, lockups, Task Manager hangs, ... I have tried it with some of the OA betas, most recently the public beta 3.1.0.12, and the conflict level looks like it has increased-it actually seemed to work OK for a brief period earlier, then nevermore. Once I uninstall Prevx Edge, everything goes back to normal.
     
  16. jmonge

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    cool:thumb:
     
  17. PrevxHelp

    PrevxHelp Former Prevx Moderator

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    Hello,
    I'll get our internal testers working on testing Edge versus 3.1.0.12 today and let you know what we find. Sorry for the inconvenience!
     
  18. Creer

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    You can try the newest beta version of OA 3.1.0.14.
     
  19. sded

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    Tried Edge yet again with OA 3.1.0.14 and Vista Ultimate, and seemed to run OK for a while, until I went into sleep mode overnight. When I came out of sleep this morning, Edge problems were back so that's it for this version. Mostly nonresponsive, not direct OA problems. When I tried to ctlaltdel to see what was happening in task manager, I got the "Login Process has failed to create the security options dialog message I saw before with Edge-maybe that will help with the diagnosis. Removed Edge and things ran OK again, but still got the message-although could now get to task manager the other ways. So rebooted and back to normal again. Would still like to try a later version, but .199 has too many issues for me at this point.
     
  20. PrevxHelp

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    Hello,
    We still haven't reproduced the issues but we are working on seeing what we can do to eliminate them. We will post back here once we have some conclusive results.
     
  21. alley

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    Possible false positives:

    Location: C:\Program Files\Conceiva\DownloadStudio\DownloadStudioDBReader.dll
    OS: Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-bit English
    Prevx Edge 3.0.0.199
    Category: Malicious Software
    Advanced Heuristics - Medium

    Virus Total Result:
    File DownloadStudioDBReader.dll received on 12.20.2008 00:53:10 (CET)
    Current status: finished
    Result: 1/38 (2.63%) Prevx1 Malicious Software


    Location: C:\Program Files\Conceiva\DownloadStudio\wwwssl.dll
    OS: Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-bit English
    Prevx Edge 3.0.0.199
    Category: Malicious Software
    Advanced Heuristics - Medium

    Virus Total Result:
    File wwwssl.dll received on 01.04.2009 08:57:32 (CET)
    Current status: finished
    Result: 1/37 (2.70%) Prevx1 Malicious Software
     
  22. PrevxHelp

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    Hello,
    (I sent you a PM, not sure if you didn't receive it)

    Could you save a scan log by going to Tools and Settings > Save Scan Results and then sending me the log via PM?

    This will help me track down the FP :)
     
  23. alley

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    PM sent. The problem seems to be fixed already: no more warnings from Edge! Thanks for quick response :thumb:
    BTW: Eagerly awaiting the x64 compatible version :D
     

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  24. paniccom

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    My prevx edge evaluation runs a scan at bootup every time, even though in the Scan Scheduler settings I un-checked "Scan automatically after bootup" and also un-checked "If my computer is not powered on at the scheduled time, scan at the next bootup". When this did not work, I then un-checked "Enable scheduled scans", so that no scans should run at all. It still scans at bootup. I have enough things happening when the computer turns on, I don't need a scan right then. Any idea why? I'm thinking of buying a license, since the pgm seems to run nice and light, I just don't want this constantly happening.
     
  25. PrevxHelp

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    Hello,
    I'm wondering - do you have Self Protection enabled and is the scan labeled "Protective Scan Initiated"? This would tend to suggest that another program is modifying the system on top of Edge, which is fine, but Edge just runs the scan to ensure nothing has changed any core system areas.

    We have, however, made some modifications to this process which will be included in the next update. If you want, I can send you a link to the test version to see if this helps fix your problem :)
     
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