Introducing Diskshot™ - an alternative to Shadow Defender

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by dax123, Oct 3, 2012.

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  1. CGuard

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    I believe it is a matter of time -> -http://www.diskool.com/ds_forum/1859276-

    No need to sacrifice common sense...
     
  2. Mman79

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    It looks like they are at least thinking it over, yes. If they do, great. If they don't, a little over 50 million people will get to use it, not counting those that live abroad and know the language or are willing to use translating services. It's life depends on the quality of the product and the devotion of the developer, not language barriers.
     
  3. bgoodman4

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    For a program that works at this level I would not want to rely on a translator program for info on how to run, set-up, and more importantly, troubleshoot. Its too easy to get something wrong and really wind up in doo doo. If the publisher provides an English translation, which he would do if he were at all rational in a business sense, then I would be willing to consider it. If he cannot bother for some reason, or is unable to do so, again for some reason, I will def give it a pass.
     
  4. CGuard

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    Yes, but its evolution depends on resources -i don't mean economic. I strongly believe that knowledge should be communicated. Knowledge sharing leads to feedback. Massive feedback leads to knowledge enhancement.

    I respect the developers' decision, no matter what may be. I, even, understand them. What i don't understand is how n unique and, possibly, inaccurate translation processes can be compared with 1, which would be accurate by default...
     
  5. CyberMan969

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    These are exactly my feelings. I try to understand people saying that maybe the developers feels happy just providing for a certain segment of their community/country - and I always respect everybody's opinion - but in my view such an attitude (if true) is just lazy and shows lack of ambition. Like you, I woudn't risk using using a utility in a language I am not familiar with.
     
  6. The Red Moon

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    If this program were to be translated into english the the potential is massive especially in north america and europe.:thumb:
    That is of course presuming it is a paid product.
    Although some business leaders believe there products are not really good enough to go global and so shy away from mass distribution and keep it amongst a small community or single country.
    I do hope a english translation will be forthcoming so english users can have a taste of this program rather than being a secret program just like its home country.
    Regards.:isay:
     
  7. dax123

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    omg, I don't want you guys fight for this :'(

    Hopefully today i'm making direct contact with one of the developer team.
    Please wish me a good luck :D
     
  8. The Red Moon

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    The very best of luck to you.:thumb:
     
  9. TheQuest

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    Hi Beethoven1770
    Are you sure it is from North Korea?

    Take Care
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  10. The Red Moon

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    Im presuming so.Ive not looked at the program in great detail but north korea has been mentioned in this thread.:isay:
     
  11. Zero3K

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    Its made by people living in South Korea according to a Whois done on Diskool.com.
     
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    What is mentioned and what is true are very different things. Of course, nowhere in this thread has any mention been made of North Korea (and yes I read through all five pages), save for your comment about secret programs "like its home country". Stop making things up, please. Furthermore, if you understand North Korea, you understand that they barely have an Internet, really only satellite, and it is barely used. There may be a couple of internet cafes now in Pyongyang (there used to be exactly one), and limited access in high priced hotels The internet most used in North Korea is used by those high up in the food chain in the Communist party, and China provides that.

    Your normal citizen is not likely to have ever used it, in fact many have never heard of it. The country is isolated, they don't export software and can't export anything to the United States nor do they really even export from the country itself, but through various companies in Thailand, Cambodia and a handful of other countries. They barely get anything at all imported and what is imported often never reaches the hands of citizens. Last but not least, the software indeed is developed in South Korea..which happens to be a very non-secret, highly tech-savvy country.
     
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  14. The Red Moon

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    Your post is just pointless.:ninja:
    This is about this product not political nonsense and so why have you brought it down to that level.o_O

    Fact of the matter is that it needs translating and brought to an english speaking audience and the language and country is totally irrelevant and yet you falsely try to make it relevant.
    No more stupid political talk please and stay on topic.:thumb: :cautious:
     
  15. dax123

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    :eek: enough for these debates which only wastes time... please take it easy guys o_O o_O


    I've contacted the chief developer, he's so smart!! :D :D :D
    He told me that he's planning to develop DiskShot as multi-language platform as of V4.X
    (and it's likely that I'll take some hand for the english translation)
    not sure that v3.X would have english platform.
    So you guys might need to wait till v4.X comes....


    for advantages of bootfetch, I'll post it as time permits, for it's time-consuming job :D
    for additional instructions, Going to revise the entire thread, based on what chief developer think.
    and for the controversy about where DS@Home come from, let me clarify it with some pictures..

    the executable icon of DiskShot@home
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    South Korea (ROK) flag
    ks-lgflag.gif


    North Korea (DPRK) flag
    ~ Removed Off Topic Political Remarks ~
    north_korea_flag.png


    did you get it? that's it :D
     
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  16. Mman79

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    Oh dear, do we really have to go through with this? I refuse to get in a tit-for-tat internet contest, so I'll just leave the other fine posters here with the following: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=2131323&postcount=110. That is a link to a post of yours talking about North Korea being mentioned..when no one ever did but you.. just a few posts up in case they'd prefer not to scroll up. To you I'll say this, if you're not going to stand behind what you say in your posts, perhaps don't post at all?

    To Dax123: I assure you I'm very aware of the differences between both countries, including their flags. I did however think it important for the product to not be dragged through the mud further with irrelevant and untrue comments by the poster above me who has further brought the discussion off-track. What we know thus far is that the product is from South Korea, the developer is planning for multiple languages and, though it may be difficult at the moment for non-Korean speaking users, we should try to support the effort and help as much as we can.
     
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  17. CGuard

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    Thank you for your efforts, dax123! Could you please ask him, (your) time permitting, whether non-system-partition virtualization is going to be added?
     
  18. dax123

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    I asked it, and here are his answers :D


    That feature of course can be implemented, and the developer is planning to incorporate it in V4.x.
    (* the plan is only for DS@home, whether commercial product will incorporate it or not is still in consideration)


    I'm afraid that this feature is not going to be implemented, for this software is not targetted for tech-savvys or power users.
    As you guys know, the physical memory used for personal computer is volatile, so its stored information is lost once the power is removed.
    To keep the user information in persisent state, the data stored in RAM needs to be moved into HDD. It ends up with increased boot / shutdown time.
    Ordinary user does not know, or wouldn't understand it. that's why he's not adding it.


    I want you guys to understand that he's very careful for adding a feature.
    He cares the 'ease of use' very much, so he thinks it's not good for a software to have too many options. it blocks the usability.
     
  19. CyberMan969

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    Than you for your reply Dax. It's a damn shame when a very promising program is being dumbed down intentionally to suit the needs of novices, a lot of which are just too lazy to read and learn how their systems work. Wrong move in my view, but hey, it's his software after all.
     
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  20. TheQuest

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    Hi dax123
    Many thanks to you for keeping us all informed and up to date. :thumb:
    Looking forward to Diskshot™ v4.

    Take Care
    TheQuest :cool:
     
  21. dax123

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    +1 :D


    my pleasure :D
     
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  22. Technical

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    Without English... well, it's a bit difficult to go on...
    Hope the 8000 licenses do not finish before we can really see the application in English...
     
  23. WSFfan

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    Just register in their forum.Signing in gives you 10 points each day.It is not that difficult to reach 500 points to gain an unlimited personal license.
     
  24. EASTER

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    Come on, now really.

    How easy it really is to make available also an english version of Diskshot instead of omitting that language. Enough of lang barriers, let's all cooperate & share freely as intended and as english developers & others do to make their softwares more widely readable for all languages.

    Something this useful deserves to be hyped and better yet, easily discernable for all!

    Regards EASTER
     
  25. Osaban

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    I live in Seoul, and I completely agree with you. It is often difficult for people to imagine how different the situation is between North and South Korea in terms of technology available to the masses.

    @dax123
    Perhaps you could suggest to the developer that by supplying a version at least in English could make the application appealing to so many people (see Shadow Defender) that a license fee of 20-30 US $ wouldn't be unreasonable. If Diskshot does what it claims, I'd buy the English version in a heartbeat.
     
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