Another issue perhaps someone has an idea. I have the backup set on an external usb port. I have windows 8.1 installed and timemachine as well. I can open the back manager and open the backup. So far so good. I can mount the backup and see it in explorer. When I drill down in file explorer to the users directory and try to open her user it says file access denied and says I need to get rights. Ok as expected. I tell it to give me rights and it runs for a long time (usb after all) when done though I still can not see the below her name in users. Loading up the properties on the folder and using the advanced security settings tab I see the that the effective access for the account I am logged in to windows under should have full control. Edit: I discovered basis of the problem. It says the media is write protected. Therefore I cannot change the permissions on the users folders in Users so I can get read visibility to the files I need to copy out (documents etc). More info the owner of the users folder is system. It won't let me change that since the media is write protected. I assume the mount in Timemachine sets it that way. How do I over ride? What do I do next? Thoughts?